MaidSafe And What It Might Mean For Digital Asset Management

[chrisfostertv]

@dirvine

Managed authentication, i.e. the ability to control who accesses your network

So that precludes a safenetwork clone i.e the libraries could be used to strengthen other projects, but you cannot clone the whole system publicly or privately?

[dirvine]

@chrisfostertv

i.e the libraries could be used to strengthen other projects, but you cannot clone the whole system publicly or privately?

You could clone the whole system, but not create a managed authentication (users controlled by you) system replacing the self authentication system. Well if you could come up with a way where it was new an novel you perhaps could. The idea here is SAFE is for everyone, including companies etc. but if you want to control people, it’s a new network and all bets are off in terms of the protection of GPL3 as we have not released a controlling authentication system under GPL or any license. The controlling authentication is under Sigmoid Solutions which is another entity. It exists for the larger companies who want it, say MOD or similar, but it’s way on the back burner for now and not really something we would want to build a business around. Somebody may though and that’s OK. Our focus is securing everyones freedom.

[chrisfostertv]

@dirvine

You could clone the whole system, but not create a managed authentication (users controlled by you) system replacing the self authentication system.

So if the goal is to eliminate servers within 10 years, it’s almost like this would force a change in company structures with the work being performed by a workforce of contractors. Unless there is a way via apps to control a range of private ID’s and their access rights etc

[dirvine]

Yes I think/hope so, certainly where people are equal to the company they work for in terms of importance it would be interesting. I think in many ways we are already getting to that mode of working with telecommuting etc. Maybe we will help out, who knows? but for sure it is an appealing option. A bit utopian perhaps, but if we provide that option then we will see who takes it up. I feel there may indeed be many changes coming and this may well be one of them, given that chance.

[bluebird]

@dirvine

@bluebird

It can be forked but no-one could use the fork? Or use it commercially? I’ve been going around and around with this, so could someone explain it to me?

Managed authentication, i.e. the ability to control who accesses your network is an antithima to maidsafe and SAFE network. It is how many large corporates work though. So instead of Freedom and Privacy for individuals this is a mechanism to control people. It is another set of technology and patents separate from SAFE.

Hope that helps.

Thanks!

I just want to know all this, since I’m getting into working with this system, no judgement is being made.

Companies would want to control authentication for two populations: customers and employees/contractors.

An example of the first might be AOL, with its walled-garden version of the Internet, which never worked out because people want the untramelled version of the Internet.

So even if they could clone the SAFE network and add a paywall to it, no-one is likely to want to use it. We can forget about that, as a dead-end.

The second type of population is exemplified by many internal corporate networks, often running such things as Lotus Notes (if anyone still uses that) and various groupware.

Now, those types of software often run over the public Internet, suitably encrypted.

But no-one has a paywall on the Internet as such - it’s like getting water and power connected to the building.

What I’m saying is, I see no reason why a company wouldn’t be able to run some overlay, representing any sort of network they want, on SAFE, just as SAFE runs as an overlay on the Internet. They wouldn’t need (or want) to clone it, but just add a layer of abstraction of their own.

[neo]

@dirvine

Yes I think/hope so, certainly where people are equal to the company they work for in terms of importance it would be interesting.

But you could say have a company where they are a part of the global SAFE network, their employees have their own access to SAFE and perhaps an alternative the employee sets up that is purely for work related things.

Then the company shares the data with employees who need access through managed Applications, so that raw access to the data (stored on SAFE in company’s private area) is never given out, but controlled through APPs and thus if an employee changes roles or leaves then the appropriate access levels can be changed for the employee/contractor.

[chrisfostertv]

@neo

Then the company shares the data with employees who need access through managed Applications, so that raw access to the data (stored on SAFE in company’s private area) is never given out, but controlled through APPs and thus if an employee changes roles or leaves then the appropriate access levels can be changed for the employee/contract

I use the ActiveDirectory_to_SAFE app to migrate a business over to the SAFE Network and have replaced all client/server infrastructure with clients running micro kernel OS. How do I ensure business continuity?