IF sold then separately … 100% agree on that … but is there the necessity to sell domain names …?
Something that has been extremely lacking is Maidsafe’s marketing, if people can see that you can register your domain without a third party, have ownership of your domain and you don’t have to buy a ssl certificate because the SAFE Network protects your domain, they’ll get closer to understanding the value.
These are the most expensive domains of all time:
If I would approach 10 of these websites and say them that they can reserve their domain on the SAFE Network for $10000, they might probably laugh at me. The thing is their are people on this forum who know the true value and when the SAFE Network starts growing. Maybe those websites laughing at first might come knocking at my door (who’s selling laughing stocks now?), and guess what? those domains are sold. Matter fact, the SAFE Network is eating up the clearnet, because the clearnet offers nothing but problems related to security & privacy.
I don’t talk to much without putting my money where my mouth is. I for one would bid $1000 per domain for porn, sex, bitcoin.
What would also help is if we stop calling it publicID’s and just stick to domain, that’s understandable on the internet. If we have a auction right now, believe me people will come this is not an assumption, when I start buying up the $1000 domains they come or loose out on something really big. If little money is in this community seneca woulden’t have managed to scope up $400K.
We all knows that domain names on the internet are not cheap, please let’s not pretend.
As far as I’m concern all Maidsafe needs is to create an Uphold account and people can start reserving their domains. It’s this easy:
I see that I’m getting too overexited again, best thing is to leave it up to Maidsafe.
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xD i 100% understand how you feel but i agree - i’m sure they will seriously consider your idea and discuss it =)
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i’ll send 10btc now if i could have TESCO. But for auction, all thats needed is a separate forum category with each thread created having the title of the name wanted. Highest bidder would be the last post in the thread on the deadline. A btc address to receive funds and a email address to confirm high bidder.
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I agree that it won’t help to fund quickly, but it could play a big part in the long term profitably of maidsafe.
We must remember that it will be a free for all to register the popular domain names first. Those who get them will do for next to nothing, then sell them on for potentially large amounts. In short, they will benefit greatly off the backs of maidsafe for very little effort.
There is definitely two business models lurking here. One is to secure popular names and then auction them off at a later date (before/after go live). Another option is to rent the names at a yearly cost, allowing maidsafe a regular income. If maidsafe don’t do this, others will - we must remember that.
If maidsafe can configure DNS to route to a different account, not just the account it was registered with, then a market for name rental will flourish. Maidsafe could retain a number of these names as assets on their books. Even if it isn’t possible to route to other accounts, a market for redirects could flourish anyway.
To me, the proposed DNS solution is going to inevitably lead to someone creating a market. Maidsafe are poised to be at the center of this market, should they choose to be. If not, there will be a race for others to fill the void and profit accordingly.
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I’d agree, that to make it anywhere near a fair process, it would be a massive effort…given that this is a network for everyone.
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How on earth would you do that when the only person who can deregister the name is its owner, and the first thing a person who receives an account with a public ID they like is going to be to change the pin, keyword and password?
Also that is a very shitty idea even if it wasn’t against how the network works, it doesn’t cost (measurable amounts of) money to maintain the “domains” so trying to rent them would be a rent-seeking behaviour and that is bad for a multitude of reasons.
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the discussion goes insanely delusional now, let’s get the MVP out NOW. Who is going to buy those domain without a live network upon which the domain rest. Without a live network, all derivative assets/projects are worthless and scamy at best, just look at SafeEx, how they chose to set their own independent course. Domain sale is not a financially viable option at this juncture AND a reflection of financial despair and childishness. Proposing a New Dream upon A-non-exist Dream just make the vaporware claims more legitimate and bring more damages. Let’s roll the first dream and one at a time.
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A quick search came up with this site: http://mostexpensivedomain.name/
Here’s an idea, much easier to implement, but long term (5 years+) rather than a few months:
Maidsafe might use such keyword ranking lists to reserve the top 1000 Internet domains, and put them in a developer reward fund, to be auctioned off after SAFEnet has been running for a few years.
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What is wrong with Dirvine’s original funding suggestion? The domain name idea, while interesting, doesn’t seem to me to be realistic in order to satisfy the short-term funding needs of Maidsafe. Other than that, the only option is the sale as I understand it.
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Wouldn’t the domain idea go against what the SAFE Network is about?
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If you have any kind of DNS then that creates a scarce resource, and a scarce resource, without central control, inevitably creates a market. the only alternative would be to forget about a DNS and only allow network names.
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It is easy to create a redirect either as a HTTP redirect or even a javascript rewrite.
As for the ethics, name space is limited and there will always be a premium for the best ones. The best you can do is create a market for said limited supply of good names. If maidsafe don’t, others will.
Ofc, there may be other competing/overlaying DNS services on top of the core one, but they have to route to somewhere and on safe net, the lowest level addresses are publicIDs (rather than IP addresses on the clear net).
Once the network is live, it is too late to think about what names maidsafe should pre-register - it will be a free for all race to accumulate as many good ones as possible.
None of this stuff need be done by developers, other than a tiny script to register accounts/IDs automatically. It is an administrative job, that could help maidsafe gain investment and an income. MVP developers need not be affected.
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Nothing, imo. Why not do both?
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Hmmmm Seneca indicated that he would buy a domain
[quote=“twotes, post:603, topic:9558”]
i’ll send 10btc now if i could have TESCO.
[/quote] Here we even got 1 person willing to spend 10btc ($ 5742.40) on one domain name
I’m ready to buy 3 domain names even for $1000 a piece.
It sounds like there is demand, I know that there is demand, the same big whales that are turning their back on Maidsafe right now because they want to sell their Maidsafecoin, would return in a second, if they know they can get their hands on more hot property. [quote=“Kingslanding, post:607, topic:9558”]
Without a live network, all derivative assets/projects are worthless and scamy at best
[/quote]There is already a live network, you can go here and play on it:
While your at it try to hack one of those websites 
The public ID thing is not a new dream, it’s a piece of the puzzle that was there already. Maidsafe just didn’t realize that it could have also monetize on this idea in their first crowdsale. What is really damaging is that Maidsafe now only has a coin, that can be manipulated as hell.
People say that this idea will do nothing, in my opinion “that’s a theory”, let’s put their claims to a test.
@dirvine I want to bid $1000 for the publicID porn, if within 24hours nobody makes a bid the publicID belongs to me. I got enough of manipulating people who are not here for Maidsafe, but want to rob the SAFE Network of all it’s value. I’m a SAFE Networker and I keep my word and back what I believe in up with money.
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[quote=“19eddyjohn75, post:366, topic:9558”]
That is half of my rent and I’m living in a small room in Zoetermeer the Netherlands (Even funnier that was my vacation money) [/quote]
Easy now, think it over 
Getting extra funding by auctioning off domain names to people who’s ONLY goal is greed will be a very questionable decision morally and one that I feel will have an effect on the purity of the whole project moving forward.
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@DIrvine @nicklambert I propose that you create an official poll thread to determine community consensus on your original sale of funds idea. Its silly to spin our wheels like this and more and more this appears like deliberate action to stall progress (on the part of FUD’ers, nay-sayers etc.) We are running low on time, and you low on funds. Prudnt expedience is a virtue in such a scenario.
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hmm - or they discuss it and just decide themselves after considering all ideas … e.g. i would vote without having read ~500 of those posts with arguments for one or the other Oo … doesn’t sound like a reasonable idea to let me participate in a poll xD
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