uhm … hard to put a price tag on something that doesn’t exist yet and nobody exactly knows how it will work /what exactly is to be done to make it working …
i don’t think this is something that should be laid out here in detail - nobody needs to get naked to show he has nothing to hide … showing all your cards is just stupid and would take much time and efford that should be in development right now …
even if you think this was the wrong decision now it’s too late to change a thing (and i personally wouldn’t want to change anything) best thing now is to support the devs and help them as much as you can
offering so many of their shares the devs already show how important this project is to them and they now should be able to go the route they entered … all those claims for exacter details just slow down the process and as everybody can see on github there is huge process … if you fear that this is a plot to buy cheap maid before the launch then buy them yourself …
wow, that’s a lot of posts… can’t be bothered to read them all.
just wanted to say: MaidSafe will do what they think it’s best for the
project and that is perfectly aligned with what everybody here should want
anyways. they have been perfectly transparent and honest all the way in my opinion.
just don’t sell them off too cheap i would hope, cause damn… i’ll be buying!
I think everyone here wants to support the dev’s. I’m just sick and tired of capitalist and management (non-workers) making decisions on the success and failure of a project. I think by getting more information out there it will protect the workers (coders in this case) that spend all of their time working while everyone else spends their time figuring out how to make money out of this…and this agreement of settle for lower amount now to survive and miss out on the high dollar amount return later seems like the same old story all of us slaves deal with.
I trust David and I’m not ignorant to the fact that non-coders are needed to finish this project, but it seems @nicklambert could offer a financial update, just like the other areas of development are, without slowing down the project more than it has already done.
To be honest, what bothers me the most is that everybody knows that this coins were produced due to an error.
In their announcement, they explain “Why is this Needed?”
How “needed” can it be?
I mean, you want investors to accept that, if the error had not occurred, you could not make this project a reality?
This extra coins should be burned and the original parameters preserved for the sake of credibility.
oh sorry - then i probably misinterpreted your post as criticism … my bad …
yeah i hope they don’t loose to much because they really deserve to profit from this project … was hard work and will continue to be …
i’m not sure if a special money-section in the update is important … that makes the money part way too important… i would say: valid way to go further - we don’t look back and focus on the fun part (the programs we can run/develop/test )
Noticed a bunch of new posters aren’t happy. Well, I have only been following this project for a couple of years, so I guess I will weigh in. I’m happy MAID is taking this project to the next level. This actually reminds me of what happened to ETH a while back. There was all this Apocalyptic talk about running out of funding, and how cats and dogs were going to socialize with one another. It was real end of the world stuff! I thought about selling my sizable chunk, but couldn’t do it. Wonder where I would be now if I had listened to all those new accounts? Anyways… something tells me some good news is coming in the next few weeks.
Excellent question. But I don’t think the alternative was failure. Clearly new funding was necessary and efforts expended. Could another new, creative funding mechanism produce the same number of coins, same impact? Same result?
Very deep and professional? Maybe deep, but professional doesn’t mean a thing to me when it comes to investing, and especially when it comes to crypto investing. Over 90% of hedgefunds with “professional people” can’t beat the SP500. Even with all their Quants and smart minds. Same for most investment funds. Research shows that far over 90% of the private investors loose money due for the most part to overtrading. I invest in people and projects/stocks that I believe in. I don’t really care what others do. In this case no new coins are created. And in the case of Tesla there are ;-). It’s like, heyy, let’s print about 5% extra stocks and sell them!. I don’t mind if Tesla does it, because they do it fot the good of the company. Same for Maidsafe, they sell some “new” coins to work on the project. In both cases I’m fine with it. Other options are far more worse IMO.
This. It really is unfortunate to see the FUD and just general paranoia. I get that the crypto community is perhaps not the most trusting, let’s say, and that some of this is to be expected. But it reminds me of the saying, No good deed …
Have you considered who might be behind these 30 minute old accounts. I consider they either people who have much older accounts, but fear blow back for criticisms; from someone in Maid that wants to create the same kind of misguided fear like Ethereum did before their launch…to make an extra buck (I think the Core SAFE dev team is better than that); or someone trying to change the impression given by other posts by people who have been members for much longer…like me.
Whoever and whatever is driving this current chain of events, consider the chance we all have to do things a better way. The SAFEnetwork offers all of us a better path to happiness and freedom, which are ideals that drive us all.
I am probably more sensitive to this right now because of my own experiences with the community so far with hopes and dreams far exceeding the present reality and because I am actively assisting with a project right now that addresses so many of these issues affecting development. I want to believe SAFE is the genius for my personal transformation and my greatest hope is we all come out on the other side of this feeling good about the way we built systems today that will be enjoyed by a free world in the future.
I’ve been waiting a day for the messages to come calling these accounts “Fake” “Fud” “Short sighted”
“Mad” “Upset” “Troll”, If you want to have a proper discussion with people here with different opinions you should know better instead of shouting these things. Respect other members with different visions. Think about why there are 30 minute old accounts, maybe they are not interested because they see all the shit thats waiting for them by just giving their opinion. If you want to have a great community we should respect that, your opinion is not always the best opinion.
This is totally incorrect, just FYI. The freakers are freaking (loudly), as is their wont. The people who have actually looked into the details are buying like ma(i)d.
^^ This. Couldn’t agree more. In Holland we have this saying ‘het doel heiligt de middelen’ and my crappy English translation would be ‘the goal justifies the means’. And for me this is a clear case of that. I have no second thoughts, and I extremely welcome the idea that the SAFE Network project is taken to the next level.
“Present,” you mean, not “future.” Anyway the announcement has zero bearing on Maid’s future. However the reasons for the announcement help secure its future.
Oh, I would love for this to be the case! These guys seem to be true to heart. Publicly facing, they are professional and transparent as needed to be.
But, you know what happens in the office with a bunch of nerds strung out on redbull and monster? All that office banter, ish talking, and REAL talk…what they say round here in my town, “dem ni**az gotta eat too”
It all depends how you see the news, again there are different opinions about this. Long term the market will react on this news and members lose trust and there is uncertainty. Short term, Maidsafe needs funding. But why calling these people “Short sighted”? the proposed way of selling the coins might not be the best option, calling people short sighted will not help at all. We just have to see what is the best option and if this is selling on the market we should accept that.
so the plot worked for me 
