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There will be more volume (hopefully) once api and apps shows potential.
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Most of the trading is done on DEX but all it takes is some impulse and trading can recover significantly, such was the case, for example, on 6 and 7 Dec. when trading on Bitmart was significantly higher than on DEX.
I can show the transfer of my MAID tokens from my Omni Maid wallet to a HitBTC wallet that is now disabled. The token transfer can be shown I sent them from my personal Omni wallet to the now disabled wallet. The HitBTC wallet can be viewed on Omni Explorer with my tokens and a small amount of BTC still there after the transfer from a year ago. Surely if I provide these details I will now be able to get my tokens swapped for the new ANT token and returned to me? Is it possible the exchange could swap my tokens for ANT and keep them. What is the process for exchanges that still have MAID tokens?
Remember that hitBTC address is their’s and they do not have to move the MAID if they don’t want to.
Now consider a scammer who transferred MAID to HitBTC and hitBTC never moved the MAID from their internal wallet address they gave the person to send the MAID to (for any reason) and the scammer traded the MAID for BTC and withdrew the BTC. There is no external record of this trade and w/d of BTC since that BTC address is unknown to others.
Now the scammer goes to the foundation and says I have 1 million MAID I transferred to HitBTC and they kept it, now give me 1 million ANT.
Do you see the problem now?
What you need to do is get onto HitBTC to send an official legal letter directly to the foundation that says they have your MAID and for whatever reason that MAID cannot be returned.
@rusty.spork has and still is I believe trying to contact HitBTC to resolve the situation. And maybe something will happen from that and you do not need to get that letter and/or do the legal route yourself.
Now with the sign and burn method of exchange to ANT, you now have time to get your MAID returned or use legal means on HitBTC. If it takes 6 months or more then you can exchange then
It is a seriously bad situation and without HitBTC cooperating it is unfortunately going to be lost MAID or a very long situation where the foundation has to ask for claims relating to the HitBTC situation and then give a time period for the claims and if it matches up then maybe they can legally do something.
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I had quite a bit of MAID that was not returned to me by Poloniex. Is there any hope of recovering it now that it’s been 7-8 years?
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Call me thick if you must…I sent the MAID to the HitBTC wallet from my wallet. How would I be able to swap the MAID for BTC when I am unable to get possession of them? The wallet shows they are still in the wallet I sent them to, so I don’t get what you’re suggesting.
That might be harder since they changed ownership as well.
They did the legally correct process of giving notice and a period of time to withdraw the goods. Most regions have in their laws that unclaimed goods/assets can be seized by the company after a certain period of time. You know like repair shops can sell off your items after a period of time after they contact you to pick them up. 3 or 6 months here. Similarly they only have to give you a certain amount of time after public announcement and I think they sent emails too. They did for their region and so legally those MAID became theirs to keep, and it would have been wise to have contacted them ASAP after you realised they were stopping MAID to ask for your MAID back. Also most of the MAID held by polioniex now will be from the fees they charged for trading and withdrawals.
But 8 years might just be too late. And again scammers will be on top of this if the foundation illegally just credited them with their claimed 1 million MAID they supposed had left in Poloniex.
You have to see these things from the Foundation’s side in that they cannot know if the person is legally genuine or mistaken or a scammer. They could not even trust me even though they have met me, known me for a decade, since I could be doing a scam then disappearing.
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- So the scammer sent MAID to the internal HitBTC address they gave the scammer to use to sent their million MAID.
- HitBTC credit the scammer’s trading platform account with the million MAID. Not real MAID but just the trading platform database. They do not need to move the MAID, its in one of the owned addresses after all.
- The scammer trades the “MAID” for “BTC”. All figures within the trading platform program/database
- The scammer requests BTC for the “BTC” on the trading platform
- receives the BTC. Only hitBTC knows what address they sent the BTC from to the scammer
- fast forward to after TGE
- the scammer now tells the foundation they have 1 million MAID they sent to HitBTC
- they document the transfer to HitBTC’s owned address and how its still there
- they sign a document saying they are truthful and never traded their MAID with the address they sent the million MAID from proving they are the current owners of that address
Scam complete.
So how is the foundation to work out this is a scam or factually truthful? They cannot
It needs legal correspondence directly from HitBTC to the foundation to resolve it. Or for you to legally sue HitBTC. Or for hitBTC to release the MAID at some stage and you then do the exchange.
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I loaded a tiny amount of BTC into my omni wallet years ago to facilitate the movement of MAID when the time came. Ironically, I’m up like 20X on that little amount since then. So BTC made me a tidy little profit along the way.
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And regarding @rusty.spork…I have been aware for some time he has been trying to make contact with the HitBTC exchange about this, but has so far been unable to get anywhere. I’ve also been trying to do the same for 12 months, but I also have failed to get any further than a respomse from the help desk suggesting it’s being looked into and I need to be patient. It’s pretty obvious that trying to get anything done about this through the Help desk is a waste of time. I think someone who has access to someone above Help desk level needs to try to get this resolved. If my tokens are an average of what’s been lost then this isn’t a paultry sum of money we’re talking about here. The Help desk is not a help…do you know anyone in Autonomi who has had dealings with exchanges?
I realise this is a very difficult situation for you and extremely frustrating and everyone here feels your pain.
From the foundations point of view they also will be feeling your pain and more so because legally they have their hands tied behind their backs because of the legal ramifications if they just credited those who showed they ever sent MAID to an exchanged and say (correctly or lying) that the exchange will not return the MAID. Or that they traded BTC for MAID and the exchange will not give it back.
The authorities would roast the foundation to the ground if they just credited people based on information given by the people. Not to mention the potential for doubling up on MAID being exchanged.
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To anyone that’s had their MAID taken, if you have the means, use this opportunity to reaccumulate a bunch while it’s still cheap. As someone in that boat, that’s what I’ve done.
With DEXs now existing, and the native token soonish, we’ll fortunately never have to be victimized by centralized exchanges again.
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Hi guys
Please bear with me as I have no idea whats going on.
I have emaid on bitmart. Should I send them to MEW (My Ether Wallet), then wait instructions from there? Can I do the thing that needs to be done from MEW?
Thanks guys!
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I do not know that wallet.
The eMAID to ANT is said to be a direct airdrop, so the ANT will be sent to that ETH address the eMAID resides in.
If MEW uses a 12 word phrase then other wallets also can be setup using that 12 word phrase. Having the private key of the address you send the eMAID to will ensure you can use any other ETH wallet if MEW does not use the 12 word phrase
Maybe @rusty.spork knows.
Thank you Neo!
If I can’t use MEW, can someone please tell me the easiest way to set up a private wallet for my emaid?
Thanks guys!
Few questions that arise:
- With the new ANT token on the Arbitrum One network, will there be a new liquidity pool initiated for ANT/USDC on Uniswap V3? As far as I read people could also trade this new ANT token on Uniswap as long as the add and switch to Arbitrum One Network in the MetaMask.
- We probably need a new guide for working with Arbitrum when using Meta Mask, Uniswap, etc.
- What will happen to the eMAID token once the equivalent of ANT is rewarded? I know Autonomi can freeze the contract, which prevents further trading if that is desirable?
- MAID conversion seems straightforward as it is a burn to mint process, seems this token can just keep being traded without issues.
- In case eMAID gets a snapshot, and the token frozen, can the liquidity pools on Uniswap still be claimed.
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Well I suppose swissbanker can stop the contract. The potential for people scamming with eMAID would be high. “Here by my eMAID cheap and exchange for ANT yourself. I just don’t want to exchange for reasons”
I guess this is just part of the tidying up and finalising that is being done by the team before announcing all the details
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I think MEW should work fine. It’s been around for a long time in crypto years and is well established.
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