I think this is a priority, and while you may not worry about the money side it is one that gets a lot of scrutiny and can easily be used to blacken the project’s name.
Also, if not seen as a priority it calls into question key claims regarding decentralisation doesn’t it?
Can this be addressed in the short term at least by deploying a new contract on a new address, so nodes ‘vote’ by upgrading or not?
If not I think best to be open and have this and other key issues on a public Decentralisation To-do List.
BTW recently one member of the team talked of the “immutable smart contract” which obviously is not the case.
Note, the above is my personal thoughts, in no way company policy or the teams vision and goals, just my personal thoughts and feelings. The team are very aware of privacy etc. but right now there will be tweaks for the next few weeks at least. We have to be able to make those tweaks.
Then when we are sure let’s make things immutable as that would be best, where possible. However let’s get the thing bedded in, I am very aware of some network things we must fix in the short term. Then we do need to wait a wee bit before we lock stuff down in a system that may take weeks and months to tweak. It’s all a balance here I think
do you mean tie it up right now? I think we would need a message type in nodes for votes and suchlike there first, but I honestly feel like that would not be a good priority right now. I think the network needs to stabilise and be proven beyond needing fast tweaks first.
Or do you mean this part?
I think it’s an idea for sure. Scammers would love it though and that’s the sad part of being out there. However from a dev perspective then I think it’s kinda vital we are all aware of the technical parts needed. I do feel though, whoever codes this stuff right now wins, we need to get that answer right as I do feel all else does not matter so much as we get near the final result. So yes I think this is worth it for sure.
I meant is the idea feasible and so a useful option at least once the smart contract is bedded in. I don’t understand what your comment about scammers refers to.
I think it would be good to have a public state of decentralisation chart/to-do list for the network, so for example the team don’t talk about the contract being immutable and everyone can point to it and say, we know and are planning to sort this as things roll out.
I mean, any interpretation right now that many folk can make in a negative way, they are doing so and doing so in very aggressive ways and tones. Scammers will amplify that when they want to spread FUD and they will. It’s just what this kind of network will bring. So we should be ready for it.
In many ways being open in this part of the project is very destructive to mental health All round that is.
I miss the positive critique, it feels like those days are now gone and we are at the mud slinging at every opportunity now. That is quite sad, but perhaps this is just what us humans do. I try and keep out of it though, but even small comments by me are being torn apart with great force looking for any possible negative connotation and it’s just wasting time in most cases. I am really keen to get away from all of that and back to the core mission of getting us all something we need.
This balancing act I feel myself doing is quite tricky these days. The core work needed is still critical in my eyes and we need to get it done, but the focus on the money parts is an area that I feel is like a shark infested cesspit at times. Not always, but it seems where folk are given superhuman powers to shout from high places at us while we are trying to actually think about technical issues that actually do need done and done properly.
I don’t really see this David. No point in a big debate, but I think people who want to spread FUD can do so more effectively if Autonomi say things that are misleading. Claims without caveats. Simple misunderstanding about the state or potential of the project as it stands.
In the past we had bold ambitions, but never claims that things are or will be a certain way when that’s not true or not credible. That’s been my criticism. I still wish the project well and to get to the fundamentals - for everyone - but seem to be seen as negative for expressing what I think are valid concerns about the state of things versus the way it is presented.
Anyway, I prefer to keep building. Lots of new code just compiling and needing testing!
And fees are significantly more expensive than any store cost in such an empty network anyway… So it effectively doesn’t change the price for uploads …
Is there a known issue with large files still? I tested some files, I don’t know where the exact cutoff is where it stops working for me, but I haven’t been able to upload anything larger than a few hundred MB. I keep getting errors that I only get 4 of 5 valid quotes.
To answer your earlier question @Toivo, I didn’t notice the exact amount of ANT (if any) that was spent on my uploads, I just noticed it was dirt cheap as I haven’t even spent 0.1 ANT yet, so perhaps it is just free. If I were able to upload large files, I’d have uploaded several TBs by now.
Failed to download the last one on your list. Tried 3 times in a row:
#Best_CD_Ever.mp3
ant file download fbacdcbf3498e2524bc984161fb9b629264c0b40430d524f97ddd6cf2bd1b70f .
Output:
toivo@toivo-HP-ProBook-450-G5:~$ ant file download fbacdcbf3498e2524bc984161fb9b629264c0b40430d524f97ddd6cf2bd1b70f .
Logging to directory: "/home/toivo/.local/share/autonomi/client/logs/log_2025-02-15_11-05-00"
🔗 Connected to the Network Error:
0: Failed to fetch data from address
1: Failed to deserialize
2: invalid value: integer `73`, expected variant index 0 <= i < 1
BegBlag failing too:
toivo@toivo-HP-ProBook-450-G5:~$ #BegBlag.mp3
ant file download 304b74b76536e89910262ade48020a4ab2724bdaf353f3b42de625fee2477228 .
Logging to directory: "/home/toivo/.local/share/autonomi/client/logs/log_2025-02-15_11-17-33"
🔗 Connected to the Network Error:
0: Failed to fetch data from address
1: Failed to deserialize
2: invalid value: integer `73`, expected variant index 0 <= i < 1
Maybe my laptop got bored with it. I have downloaded it possibly over 20 times every now and then from the time it became available. I don’t have any real tracking about it, but it seemed to be getting faster and faster, as the network grew. Until today.
aul@mini-vader:/tmp$ ant file download fbacdcbf3498e2524bc984161fb9b629264c0b40430d524f97ddd6cf2bd1b70f .
Logging to directory: "/home/paul/.local/share/autonomi/client/logs/log_2025-02-15_18-12-09"
🔗 Connected to the Network Error:
0: Failed to fetch data from address
1: Failed to deserialize
2: invalid value: integer `73`, expected variant index 0 <= i < 1
Location:
ant-cli/src/actions/download.rs:94
Backtrace omitted. Run with RUST_BACKTRACE=1 environment variable to display it.
Run with RUST_BACKTRACE=full to include source snippets.
paul@mini-vader:/tmp$ ant file download 304b74b76536e89910262ade48020a4ab2724bdaf353f3b42de625fee2477228 .
Logging to directory: "/home/paul/.local/share/autonomi/client/logs/log_2025-02-15_18-10-56"
🔗 Connected to the Network Error:
0: Failed to fetch data from address
1: Failed to deserialize
2: invalid value: integer `73`, expected variant index 0 <= i < 1
Location:
ant-cli/src/actions/download.rs:94
Backtrace omitted. Run with RUST_BACKTRACE=1 environment variable to display it.
Run with RUST_BACKTRACE=full to include source snippets.
So, it looks like something isn’t right!
EDIT: Curiously, they still seems fine through AntTP on my laptop. I do notice this though:
[2025-02-15T18:15:04Z INFO actix_web::middleware::logger] 127.0.0.1 "GET /fbacdcbf3498e2524bc984161fb9b629264c0b40430d524f97ddd6cf2bd1b70f HTTP/1.1" 200 57630720 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/129.0.0.0 Safari/537.36" 107.383463
[2025-02-15T18:15:04Z INFO anttp] archive_addr [fbacdcbf3498e2524bc984161fb9b629264c0b40430d524f97ddd6cf2bd1b70f], archive_file_name []
[2025-02-15T18:15:04Z INFO anttp] No archive found at [fbacdcbf3498e2524bc984161fb9b629264c0b40430d524f97ddd6cf2bd1b70f]. Treating as XOR address
That’s not an archive, but a file, according to AntTP. I wonder if the CLI is treating it as an archive, then failing deserialisation?
Same for BegBlag…
[2025-02-15T18:20:38Z INFO anttp] No archive found at [304b74b76536e89910262ade48020a4ab2724bdaf353f3b42de625fee2477228]. Treating as XOR address
[2025-02-15T18:20:38Z INFO anttp] Retrieving file from [304b74b76536e89910262ade48020a4ab2724bdaf353f3b42de625fee2477228]
[2025-02-15T18:20:38Z INFO anttp] Downloading item [304b74b76536e89910262ade48020a4ab2724bdaf353f3b42de625fee2477228] at addr [304b74b76536e89910262ade48020a4ab2724bdaf353f3b42de625fee2477228]
All round that is.
