because when you graph full ant the attos an upload cost show a straight line i have 1k nodes earning into my hot wallet
When I did:
ant wallet balance
Before and after successful upload I got the exact same number with ANT (attos), only GAS was reduced. And same thing with unsuccessful upload, too.
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Ah, I was looking at the wrong page for my tokens. I can see them flowing in now! 
Iāll have some time play with them tomorrow, hopefully!
If anyone else is looking, go here and filter by your wallet address: Autonomi (ANT) Token Tracker | Arbitrum One
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im not using the internal wallet i use a standard meta mask wallet that i set the private key for in bashrc
nano ~/.bashrc
then paste these two lines at the end
export EVM_NETWORK=arbitrum-one
export SECRET_KEY=<private key from meta mask wallet>
then upload like the old days after closing and restarting the terminal
ant file upload -p BegBlag.mp3
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Anyway, the only ANT transaction the blockchain shows for my address is the transaction from Bitmart to me.
This is the file I uploaded for GAS payment only:
ant file download ee804204a7553ed6e79c59a6d3802730c55dab534454e6ceb19082b4f7579da8 .
When you look at your txs on arbiscan youāll see that your payments look somewhat fishy - they should have multiple outputs (3 nodes paid per chunk - so 12 recipients for a small public file)
Not sure what a transaction that is but 1 output shouldnāt be enough no matter how you turn or twist it
I can see ant flowing and the multi output payments for my uploads
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I can see some small rewards too, which looks like upload rewards (rather than the chunky test ones).
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OK, what the heck, let it be public, Iāll have another private wallet later:
Summary
toivo@toivo-HP-ProBook-450-G5:~$ ant wallet balance
Logging to directory: "/home/toivo/.local/share/autonomi/client/logs/log_2025-02-13_22-11-47"
Enter password to decrypt wallet:
Wallet balances: 0xA909aCC1c2B0d311f7b9f5D91b7e69f0b32Ea91d
+---------------+----------------------+
| Token Balance | 66000000000000000000 |
+---------------+----------------------+
| Gas Balance | 4990000000000000 |
+---------------+----------------------+
toivo@toivo-HP-ProBook-450-G5:~$ ant file upload -p topibott.jpg
Logging to directory: "/home/toivo/.local/share/autonomi/client/logs/log_2025-02-13_22-16-37"
š Connected to the Network Enter password to decrypt wallet:
Uploading data to network...
Encrypting file: "topibott.jpg"..
Successfully encrypted file: "topibott.jpg"
Paying for 4 chunks..
Uploading file: topibott.jpg (4 chunks)..
Successfully uploaded topibott.jpg (4 chunks) to: 13807e19c7e51fd2b1a3bcd2359da6e36bae6c66b77c6caec03479ae0061c914
Upload of 1 files completed in 116.27741151s
Uploading public archive referencing 1 files
Successfully uploaded: topibott.jpg
At address: ee804204a7553ed6e79c59a6d3802730c55dab534454e6ceb19082b4f7579da8
Number of chunks uploaded: 8
Number of chunks already paid/uploaded: 0
Total cost: 67064467572 AttoTokens
toivo@toivo-HP-ProBook-450-G5:~$ ant wallet balance
Logging to directory: "/home/toivo/.local/share/autonomi/client/logs/log_2025-02-13_22-32-51"
Enter password to decrypt wallet:
Wallet balances: 0xA909aCC1c2B0d311f7b9f5D91b7e69f0b32Ea91d
+---------------+----------------------+
| Token Balance | 66000000000000000000 |
+---------------+----------------------+
| Gas Balance | 4975695870000000 |
+---------------+----------------------+
toivo@toivo-HP-ProBook-450-G5:~$ time ant file upload -p Waterfall_slo_mo.mp4
Logging to directory: "/home/toivo/.local/share/autonomi/client/logs/log_2025-02-13_22-37-20"
š Connected to the Network Enter password to decrypt wallet:
Uploading data to network...
Encrypting file: "Waterfall_slo_mo.mp4"..
Successfully encrypted file: "Waterfall_slo_mo.mp4"
Paying for 16 chunks..
Uploading file: Waterfall_slo_mo.mp4 (16 chunks)..
Upload of 1 files completed in 1788.098914275s
Error uploading file Waterfall_slo_mo.mp4: PutError(Network(FailedToVerifyChunkProof(NetworkAddress::RecordKey("8000f1c242f9bd2ec6e7dd16a8230a2d5b77b0a76d2b1e99eb3cdc6828589f7b" - c4f3c90fef7cac006202610953f07214c927beb3af1a61fe99494e1346ea6461))))
Error:
0: Failed to upload file
1: Failed to upload file
2: A network error occurred.
3: Failed to verify the ChunkProof with the provided quorum
Location:
ant-cli/src/commands/file.rs:70
Backtrace omitted. Run with RUST_BACKTRACE=1 environment variable to display it.
Run with RUST_BACKTRACE=full to include source snippets.
real 29m53.999s
user 4m47.541s
sys 2m2.297s
toivo@toivo-HP-ProBook-450-G5:~$ ant wallet balance
Logging to directory: "/home/toivo/.local/share/autonomi/client/logs/log_2025-02-13_23-10-58"
Enter password to decrypt wallet:
Wallet balances: 0xA909aCC1c2B0d311f7b9f5D91b7e69f0b32Ea91d
+---------------+----------------------+
| Token Balance | 66000000000000000000 |
+---------------+----------------------+
| Gas Balance | 4950103270000000 |
+---------------+----------------------+
toivo@toivo-HP-ProBook-450-G5:~$ ant wallet balance
Logging to directory: "/home/toivo/.local/share/autonomi/client/logs/log_2025-02-13_23-26-04"
Enter password to decrypt wallet:
Wallet balances: 0xA909aCC1c2B0d311f7b9f5D91b7e69f0b32Ea91d
+---------------+----------------------+
| Token Balance | 66000000000000000000 |
+---------------+----------------------+
| Gas Balance | 4950103270000000 |
+---------------+----------------------+
toivo@toivo-HP-ProBook-450-G5:~$ Antup
Antup: command not found
toivo@toivo-HP-ProBook-450-G5:~$ time ant file upload -p Waterfall_slo_mo.mp4
Logging to directory: "/home/toivo/.local/share/autonomi/client/logs/log_2025-02-13_23-30-28"
š Connected to the Network Enter password to decrypt wallet:
Uploading data to network...
Encrypting file: "Waterfall_slo_mo.mp4"..
Successfully encrypted file: "Waterfall_slo_mo.mp4"
Paying for 16 chunks..
Uploading file: Waterfall_slo_mo.mp4 (16 chunks)..
Upload of 1 files completed in 1767.12296129s
Error uploading file Waterfall_slo_mo.mp4: PutError(Network(FailedToVerifyChunkProof(NetworkAddress::RecordKey("c5e3631b4f48b3f68359491b04450ba2bd37fec53885bd620d7fb0115989cf30" - c0ed472813bb05bdf6833521a74b7acf02e4bcebe2da2519b716f183563aea1f))))
Error:
0: Failed to upload file
1: Failed to upload file
2: A network error occurred.
3: Failed to verify the ChunkProof with the provided quorum
Location:
ant-cli/src/commands/file.rs:70
Backtrace omitted. Run with RUST_BACKTRACE=1 environment variable to display it.
Run with RUST_BACKTRACE=full to include source snippets.
real 29m42.031s
user 3m53.546s
sys 1m37.103s
toivo@toivo-HP-ProBook-450-G5:~$ ant wallet balance
Logging to directory: "/home/toivo/.local/share/autonomi/client/logs/log_2025-02-14_00-07-07"
Enter password to decrypt wallet:
Wallet balances: 0xA909aCC1c2B0d311f7b9f5D91b7e69f0b32Ea91d
+---------------+----------------------+
| Token Balance | 66000000000000000000 |
+---------------+----------------------+
| Gas Balance | 4943518940000000 |
+---------------+----------------------+
Good night everyone, I head to bed!
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They are from me I could literally see my own upload payments coming home.
I have a Linux mint upload set on a repeating script over night so you should see some more attos coming in.
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My upload of a photo didnāt seem to get charged in ANT when I look at Arbiscan either.
I was told in the terminal that it cost a bunch of AttosTokens, but I canāt see any transaction on Arbiscan for ANT - only for ETH.
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More Dexyās
Burn it down - dance stance
Before all this āEileenā nonsenseā¦
Successfully encrypted file: "burn_it_down_dance_stance.ogg"
Paying for 4 chunks..
Uploading file: burn_it_down_dance_stance.ogg (4 chunks)..
Successfully uploaded burn_it_down_dance_stance.ogg (4 chunks) to: 2e044863dd3eeb9cdcf3a1d2ee35102141fedd89fb833cbe72beefb8d57fc8d6
Upload of 1 files completed in 30.042994204s
Uploading public archive referencing 1 files
Successfully uploaded: burn_it_down_dance_stance.ogg
At address: 0f75ccbd3ac8ec351eeecfdd71261101218592792fcfc5c64c5b179df5da30a4
To which location does downloads go? I found it, it ended up in a folder in /home/user/
Downloads are steaming, BegBlag is like 15 mb and it only took seconds. 
Also nice game @markwylde , I managed to reach level 2. 
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Can you explain how that was fixed? If Autonomi can fix this they can break the network the same way.
Sounds like a massive central vulnerability.
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update
ant file download 304b74b76536e89910262ade48020a4ab2724bdaf353f3b42de625fee2477228 . #md5sum b5cbbfb4fd311c0913972f885cada4e8 BegBlag.mp3
ant file download 350a5b3de1482e05a0c12ce7f434504d7372961036f692565c6fbf0511b0b800 . #md5sum 6d14a6fb2ea801521cc4afccbd20d26a AnarchyInTheSouthside.mp3
ant file download 5a3fab6764916342f015c67b7856ba8ff2c0e711827ce18abdb3075f358c5237 . #md5sum 35a9d8e9a28be554e00fb18c4d824913 An_Introduction_To_The_SafeNetwork.mp4
ant file download fbacdcbf3498e2524bc984161fb9b629264c0b40430d524f97ddd6cf2bd1b70f . #md5sum 4c643c4961173459cfec8d629edf2ac9 Best_CD_Ever.mp3
ant file download cc62ca079e8c3e649a134c0ff80da86c393ad16d6c40c002e0643afd7c51d55b . #md5sum b965900758377e1c52198bae42344418 Deep_Feelings_Mix.mp3
ant file download 5bc2a0a0f309e55c83c98d033a1711b10338eba10c8696a4af65a39e70b1e6ae . #md5sum 9c7af792fa736307402e5ca2c33494c2 autonomi.mp4
ant file download 4d32050ad7972af55f3f88ae6c3e0366e7bebc816a2c9990516d31a28713323f . #md5sum 452d1231d72489503ce73bc504b3da6e Patosh-RoughNight.mp3
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I doubt anyone thinks that this is the final network restart, this is not currently a issue in my opinion.
Would be a good conversation to have regarding when it stops.
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Exact! BTW I donāt think fixing this requires a restart.
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Yea, the fix here was a smart contract issue. so that was redeployed.
There are several balls in the air in my feels right now. They all relate.
- The erc20 means smart contract etc. There are ways to have that āvoted on changesā by node operators and do what many other networks do. Itās a lot of work regardless, but doable.
- Native tokens, of course issues with actually getting listed anywhere or on dex that is super simple to use
- Native tokens and ignore on/off ramps
- Probably many more
However, my own feeling is, regardless, getting A network up and running with a workable API to allow folk to see what can be done is got to be step 1.
Then there are lots happening right now
- Network core code issues, that I see as critical need fixed and upgraded as hot fixes
- Ways to hide transaction fee complexity
- lots more
Again, and others may disagree, I feel personally not inclined to worry about the money parts right now, as long as we can get out there and folk get a chance of reward. My bigger concern, again PERSONALLY, is AI and the progress there, not to a money free society, but to a place where we need truly decentralised data storage. That means be running and running as fast as possible. So this current dash, I feel is only the part. The apps will be wave 2, then in parallel likely a native token mechanism, but mostly we have to have secured data storage.
I am keen to investigate replacing all network code with a neural net, I think that may have legs.
However, the centralisation part is gonna be a concern for a while, not the smart contract, but purely who develops the code and how do nodes accept upgrades. As no matter how smart the network tech is, this issue of core dev team, in my mind is a severe weakness that is not easily solved and no project has managed to do that. Somebody needs to write code and somebody needs to deploy it then nodes can choose to upgrade or not. Then we can have many teams and some will differ in approach, so does the network fragment into many or what?
I feel though with solid reward functions and a neural net that can evolve, then we may stand in a better place. If the parameters are ensure privacy security and freedom in the digital world for all humans and associated devices, then we may be in an even better place.
That last part is a project I am super keen to attempt, but for now in the short term we have the above numbered issues to deal with.
A lot of balls in the air, as I say.
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THis is all super exciting but please do not burn yourself out. THat is all too easy to do at this stage in your recovery.
We want you around to see the fruits of your and everyone elses effort over the years. If it takes a few weeks more then so be it.
Please donāt overdo it.
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I hear ye. I did way too much over xmas and it was a drain for sure. Itās not my nature to sit back and this one fights me every time 
I am now realising I cannot just jump straight in like I did, but a few months more I should be able to. Right now itās interesting as I watch and read a lot of stuff, but cannot do any fiction at all, all documentaries and suchlike. Amazing thing in many ways. But yea the concentration is a killer, very easily switch off from useless conversations, but thrive on the useful ones.
Maybe a good life lesson in there somewhere I think. Value, value and donāt value bias, ego or hatred, just value value.
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