I’m not going to dig into that but think you are making incorrect assumptions about this.
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This is a great improvement. They still don’t have android tablet apps that pair with your phone. Hopefully soon.
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Incorrect that phone numbers are not private or that signals necessity for a phone number is a privacy concern?
Just found this compare table which looks very good. A shame Matrix isn’t on there
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As you can see here at the top right in yellow, signal is a little weak on these points, although much better than whatsapp, etc.
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If you are using an iphone you are never really private anyway. Same with standard google android phones.
Yeah, i’d like a way to link my tablet.
next time you are in a foreign country where you dont need ID to get a sim card, get one and register accounts on messenger apps. I have 4 extra telegram accounts this way - each at least 3 years old (and never needed the phone number again)
Good idea, but still weak on privacy for me. Even with a number not in your name most of the messages are not encrypted.
Great presentation about SimpleX
This guy seems to prefer it over Matrix
Google monetizes data obvioiusly. Apple does sell overpriced hardware but does not necessarily need to earn money by selling your user data. Both are not ideal, so there is a tradeoff.
Regarding the iPhone: What privacy issue do you see specifically? I am aware that there has been demands by EU and USA to implement “Client Side Scanning” (which would indeed be a big issue for privacy), but I thought these plans have been put to a hold. Same goes for the EU plans to hold decryption keys for messenger apps. This is still being discussed and not implement afaik. And the second issue I am aware was the iCloud encryption keys held by Apple only. This has now been resolved and Apple offers the option to encrypt the iCloud data with the private device key. Obviously you need to trust them then to not hold a second key.
I generally don’t trust anyone, thats why I am here 
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I think you answered your own question. You don’t trust anyone yet you trust Apple and what they say? If we can’t verify what they say is true by looking at the code then who knows? Best to use an open source OS that can be verified.
I’d say it is very likely they or at least the government are collecting your data.
Thats a possibility but we don’t know for sure, that’s why I asked if there are (non-hypothetical) known privacy issues I am not aware of. Now for everyday usage, there still is a tradeoff between practical usability (e.g. being able to chat with “granny”) and privacy. Everyone needs to make its own decision on that I guess.
Yes, i’m assuming it is not private and you are assuming it is. But we have to assume because it is closed source. You have a choice to put yourself in a position where you have to assume and trust or use another device that you can know. Up to you.
We wouldn’t be here waiting for the Autonomi network to launch if it was closed source and controlled by Maidsafe.
Btw, GrapheneOS works very well. I can still chat with my granny 
Edit: of course even with my GrapheneOS I have to trust the hardware doesn’t have a back door. Next step would be to use a phone with open source hardware. Even that is a step too far for me at the moment.
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try JAMI, its 100% peer to peer , Savoir Faire Linux guys in Montreal, Canada… They took RING and did it up right, you can also install and host run your own Turn Server which is a secure comms stream relay server, if you don’t want to use the ones Savoir Faire hosts in different places
video, voice and chat, totally private.
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Here is the history on it…
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reasonably decent youtube video on JAMI…
I use it daily…
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Thanks for the info. I’ll look into it.
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" Apple iMessage
- Apple were implicated as an NSA partner in the Snowden leaks.
- Apple’s general record in digital privacy is poor/mixed. For example, Apple have been paid by Google to set iOS’ default web browser to Google. iCloud is not encrypted.
- Encryption uses weak cryptographic primitives, and perfect forward secrecy is not implemented, and, if iCloud is enabled, Apple have full access to messages.
- Metadata is not encrypted, and hence timestamps/location/sender/receiver/etc. is not encrypted. Metadata gives intelligence agencies a lot of data to deduce what people are doing by their location, who they’re messaging, when they’re messaging, etc.
- The app and backend servers are not open source, and hence no one knows the quality of the code, if encryption is implemented correctly, and if there are serious vulnerabilities.
- There is very little documentation, and hence no one knows the encryption implementation details, infrastructure security, or even the security of the app itself.
- There have been no code audit and an independent security analysis, and hence we must take Apple’s word. No one can mark his own homework, including Apple."
From here:
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Does this work well for video calls? Can you have group video calls?
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