Best Ant (was Safe) Node hardware

Yeah thats an old one :slight_smile:

I have a minefield to work through…

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I found time to start one of my Dell OptiPlex 7060 USFF / Intel Core i5-8500 / 16GB / 500GB nvme. This is the load with 120 nodes, I ordered another 16 GB of RAM and I will see if I can raise them to 250 nodes:


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They’re capable little boxes, right? The limit is definitely storage space on the 2.5" drives. At least for used gear at a good price.

CPU wise, I reckon they’d be good for 250+ pretty easily. Even the i5 6500T in the older ones.

I’m collecting used 8GB lenovo M910Q at the moment and slapping in old 2TB 2.5" drives. A pretty good fit for 8GB RAM and they can duck under £100 with the right deals.

Would be great to get in with a few corps who churn these devices and just want them gone. They could be converted into supporting the network easily!

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You most certainly mean 2tb drives - right?

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Yes - updated! :sweat_smile:

To add, its a nice wee package though. Small, quiet and happily sits on/under/next to a home router.

If they were just plugin and go, it would take the setup pain and give 24x7 node running. Great for less technical folks who don’t want to mess about with this stuff.

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How 120 nodes with 500GB nvme?

The network doesn’t store much data atm (relative to potential capacity), so per node storage requirement is low too.

i thought i had to keep 35GB free for each node.
how can i tell how much is being used?

Just look at how much free space you have on your hard drive. On the computer you are commenting on, 120 nodes take up 140 GB of space:


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thanks. After I wrote that i realised i could just look at the size of the autonomi folder.

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Someone at Discord estimated that 2 TB of data would cost $750 in blockchain fees. I don’t expect storage space to be an issue in the coming years…


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Yes, that $750 is just the mining fees, I believe. Node runners will surely want their cut on top of that, or they will be running nodes for free. The native token should pass that whole $750 to node runners and/or to uploaders. That’s a big economic benefit.

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That’s going to be a major issue. Didn’t those passwordmanager folks have petabytes of data to upload ?

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I am running around 5500 nodes at the moment, and its doing about 200MB/s reads on disk i/o in steady state (host isn’t maxed out on CPU). NAT session table around 500K.

I am wondering if I am getting bottlenecked by some of the LAG NICs on some of the hosts, as some are at (2x1Gbps), others at (4x1Gbps), and some at 1x10Gbps.

I will probably spend this weekend upgrading all the hosts to 2x10Gbps… see where the baseline off the Read MB/s fall or rise.

In addition, the load isn’t balanced equally on the 2 circuit breakers I am using so I need to power down machines, and re-adjust. Its currently, at 75% on 1 circuit and 25% on another. If I can get it more close to 50% and 50%, then I can spin up more nodes :smiley: .

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Feel free to estimate the Blockchain TXs fees for uploading 1pb of data to the network :slight_smile: (and maybe doing a rough estimate on how long it’ll take with e.g. 100 txs per second - might become an interesting calculation)

Okay - was too curious and did the time part. 1 pb - 3 nodes get paid - 100 txs per second -

1_000_000_000 MB / 4 * 3 / 100 / 3600s/h / 24h == 86 days to get 1 pb into the network

Maybe arbitrum is faster… But wouldn’t bet on it… I think the Ton Blockchain died a while back when it was at 150 txs per second…

The Blockchain is the bottleneck (oh well and ofc it would cost a fortune)

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And that estimate isn’t considering the smart contract execution for price discovery/emissions… Not sure if that adds to the tx count or not…

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OK this is Linux correct?

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sounds like a decent plan!

Yes, kubuntu, I removed the graphical environment from it and I only use https://cockpit-project.org/ to manage it


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