Best Ant (was Safe) Node hardware

I was thinking about this the other day and harking back to my writing RTOS systems for microprocessors/mini-computers I realised just using a baseline figure will not be accurate.

The CPU is doing work 100% of the time in baseline. Just mostly not user mode work so the CPU usage is very low since that only is showing the user mode programs total work (user mode and system calls).

Thus when you are using 62% of the cpu running applications (user mode and system mode) the cpu is only doing 38% non-application work.

Thus for the cpu power the baseline is only correct for 38% of the time. Thus if baseline CPU is 100 watts then when running nodes its 38Watts ā€œbaselineā€ and the other 62watts is part of the running of nodes.

@neo - the system is idle and using 240 watts (in steady state) doing minimal i/o and cpu work in general. Anything that raised the power consumption here is directly related to antnodes, so I am okay with my math (user or kernel space (doesn’t matter) it was all associated with running more applications and in this case only antnodes.

The LXC CPU usage is very close to Host CPU Usage (I am just not showing that chart), as the LXC Usage went up, so did the Host CPU Usage. There is only 1 LXC on the host.

I don’t know where folks are getting this figures from. There is literally two power watt readings for the numbers here, with and without load :thinking: . And only one contributor to the extra power consumption aka antnode (it doesn’t matter to me if it uses kernel or user or both) to get the work done from the baseline of 240 watts (steady state w/o antnode).

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You have to understand that even in idle the CPU is still executing instructions 100% of the time.

@Shu there is apparently dpdk support for Freebsd, so in theory it will run DPDK open vswitch offload on say a mellanox or naptech dual port card , if you want to located one of your fleets of antnodes in a colo and the colo operator gives you two TOR switch leaf drops for path redundancy from your monster system with say 10Gbit per port using an offload NIC, that would be a real beast of an antnode system setup… The Napatech NIC is a nice fit in 1U rackmount. For the record I know and worked with CMO there Jarood Sikket when we were at FORE systems together bak in the 90s, he is a good guy and the Napatech Danish techies are the best in that NIC offload space.

It might be something the Autonomi foundation would want to fund, a POC with your stuff and the DPDK offload setup running on say mellanox and napatech?

There is no stopping big node operator deployments of Autonomi Antnode fleets in the colo, its going to happen (is happening?)

imo we are better to get ahead of the curve on this one and dictate how that happens to ensure the quality of antnode ā€˜fleet’ growth performance

Thoughts?

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I’m looking to set up some nodes on a cloud / hosted server. (Around 1k nodes if possible) Is there an idiot’s guide?

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I sent you a dm on discord.

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So i have a server in place, with debian, ive install antctl. How do i get nodes running? Sorry if this sounds a bit daft

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Try this as a normal user (not root) antctl add --count <number of nodes> --rewards-address <your wallet addess> evm-arbitrum-sepolia

Start with 2 or 3 nodes rather than 1000(!) to test it

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Thanks, I shall give that a try with 10 :grinning:

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so i tried as normal user and i kept getting antctl command not found. however logged in as ā€˜root’ ive managed to get 10 nodes up and running now. Is it not a good idea to run it as root?

follow the instructions here:

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Lisa. @aatonnomicc created a useful set of scripts at NTracking/anm at main Ā· safenetforum-community/NTracking Ā· GitHub

Note the anm subdir. It may be worth exploring as it JustWorks

It JustWorks in a weird manner but does Work.
And you can always ping @aatonnomicc or myself for hand-holding

The main directory NTracking is useful but not essential now IMHO - go to the scripts in the subdir and confusingly the first actions you need are halfway down the README

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Still waiting for you to translate my ramblings into something sensible @Southside :joy:

If you need a hand @Lisa_Brown just give myself or Southside a shout :slight_smile:

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Thank you so much for you help guys ! And erwin on discord, I’ve so far successfully got 300 running on a hetzner auction server which is costing peanuts to run!

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I promise to feel guilty for at least 2 minutes - sorry
RealLife has hit me with another GRQ scheme that I am beholden to evaluate for a very good friend so I need to try to find the scam. Cos there HAS to be one…
If sounds too good to be true, it almost certainly is. My job for next day or two is to evaluate ā€œalmostā€
Oh and turn myself into a HighFreqTradingBot expert as well…

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Hi frequency trading bot with high leverage I’m guessing equals great way to end up bankrupt.

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I am assured on a stack of O’Reilly books that we will only be using someone elses money. Right now I m trying to work out if that someone else knows about this :slight_smile:

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would it not be better just to steal it yourselves at least then one of you would have the money instead of the forex broker ?

ethical trading just steal it fair and square :rofl:

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@rusty.spork @JimCollinson Can you looking into this and fix the document if needed

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Dunno if this will apply, but you ever heard of the football scam.

(initial count of mailings not correct, forgot exact number but the scam idea is not based on initial number, it just has to be large enough)

  • Company sent out 8 million letters
    • 4 million says team A will win
    • 4 million says team B will win
    • Letter announces a new program costing 8000 dollars and will predict the winning team. The offer is included to buy the program
  • next week 4 million letters are sent to the people who got the previous letter with the winning team (A or B)
    • 2 million has team C will win
    • 2 million has team D will win
    • Again the offer to buy the program to predict winners is included
  • next week 2 million letters are sent to the people who got the previous letter with the winning team (C or D)
    • 1 million has team E will win
    • 1 million has team F will win
    • Again the offer to buy the program to predict winners is included
  • This continues for 8 weeks in total with only sending letters to people who ever got the winning team. And removing those who already bought the program
    • this is 32000 people approximately that have received 8 weeks of winners and becomes quite convincing to those people. What are the chances of predicting winners 8 weeks in a row.
    • Thus a good number of those 32000 people fork out the 8000 (or was it 20000) dollars and make the promoters millionaires and total scam.

This was decades ago and took a lot of people’s money.

The same can be done with forex scams and emails with programmed generation it is easy to buy a mailing list of millions of people who ever searched currency conversion.

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