AUTONOMI Token - Price & Trading topic

Autonomi Network Token (incl (e)MAID) Price
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  1. people need cash after multi-year lock-ups
  2. people start realizing there is barely any liquidity and there may be none left soon
  3. people start realizing foundation may need to liquidate some coin too at some point, there is not much runway left
  4. people realize this shit hasn’t moved while everything else pumps
  5. people realize this shit will only run when it actually works (redundant? double spend/close group “concensus”?) and is a 10-fold better in performance, efficienty and UX compared to anything out there now
  6. people realize it may be the tail-end of this bull cycle, and any run in price won’t be lasting, may want to buy when price is 1 cent and below.
  7. people realize no retail liquidity will follow as nobody understands arbitrum and we are not listed on any real cexes
  8. people realize smart money buys bottom of the bear
  9. people realize nobody knows about Autonomi and it will take years to rebuild our narrative/brand to have any sort of sustained network effect. Bears are good times for these especially with a semi-working product. OG crypto left and has long forgotten us, with the exception of those few that got stuck here.

Loads of reasons to sell,
at least some portion before your investment evaporates into nothing for a year or 2 when things can move up again

I will be laughed at and ridiculed on this forum, but its just how things are.
Common sense and informed descision-making does not favor increased exposure at this time.

Do i have some exposure, yes. I’m not your enemy :- )

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Just tell me if we’ll be able to ride the altcoin wave in the coming months… or, on the contrary, will it be when the bears take control, when this project rises a little, but not as much as it could rise in an altseason…

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I think its likely we see a altcoin run, but my glass ball is out of service at the moment

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My agogometer is still working fine, whirring away during the first phase of IF.
I expect further whirring on Sunday night/Monday morning as the Official Results of IF Phase 1 are decided.

As for ANT, like @Toivo, I bought back in and made a small but welcome increase in my bags. The gas price issue stopped me spending these gains on votes though so no double dunt sadly.
Still any increase in bag size is welcome, no matter how modest.

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Indeed, I can add a few too.

We only need one unseen reason to explode.

Tick tock.. when does it come? It comes when you have your pants down!

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What we call “hopium fallacy”

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You are 100% confident now that we finally have a working network is the time to offload your tokens until the next cycle.

Thats fine, I am not confident enough to do so.

Maybe it is hopium but the risk of selling now to buy back lower seems insanely risky at this time in the projects life.

I would rather be the fool that held through a bear (whenever that may be) but kept all my coins instead of the fool who sold right as the project proved itself.

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I do not recommend to sell at all, i recommend not to buy

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To be brutally honest, most people have their pants down when they come. #WisdomOfAge

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That’s what I said :laughing:

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Altcoin season has historically followed every bitcoin pullback and has always been—like every bitcoin pump—obviously predictable, due to every halving being known in advance. I don’t understand the logic behind your argument that this project is somehow going to be excluded from that natural flow of events. It would seem to violate everything we have seen since 2009. What am I missing here?

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Every altcoin bullrun not all altcoins are pumping. You can see, how top 100 cryptocurrencies are changing over time.

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I understand that, but this is not merely an altcoin. If you truly believe, as I do, that the quality and depth of this project is unmatched, now is the time to lean into that hard and not take your foot off the gas.

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For some reason it was much better to have main pair MAID/BTC than ANT/USDT as we have now.
Before if BTC went up and no one sells, the value went up for MAID as well. In same situation someone have to buy bunch of ANT to copy BTC trend now.

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I asked Grok to break it down but be really nasty about it, just for kicks. Don’t take offense, @mendrit. This was just for fun to kill the negativity. Here goes:

  1. Omni Is a Dinosaur, and MAID’s Chained to It

You’re pining for MAID/BTC because it was on Omni, a creaky old platform bolted onto Bitcoin’s blockchain. Omni was a half-baked attempt to let tokens like MAID exist on Bitcoin, but it’s slow, expensive, and dumber than a bag of hammers. Bitcoin’s blockchain chugs along at 10–60 minutes per transaction, and fees can spike to $10 or more when the network’s busy. Imagine trying to run a decentralized internet—like MaidSafe’s SAFE Network—on a system that moves like a sloth and costs a fortune. It’s laughable. MAID/BTC only worked for simple trades, not for building a real network with storage, payments, and rules. Omni’s a relic, and MAID was shackled to its rotting corpse.

  1. No Smart Contracts, No Future

You think MAID/BTC was great because its dollar value jumped when Bitcoin did? That’s just a cheap trick of BTC pairs, not some genius feature. MaidSafe needs complex rules (smart contracts) to manage its network—think “pay 1 SAFE for 1GB of storage” or “split rewards among users.” Bitcoin and Omni can’t do that. They’re as smart as a rock. No smart contracts means no decentralized apps, no real network, just a token sitting there like a useless trophy. Ethereum’s Arbitrum, where ANT and likely SAFE live now, runs circles around Omni with smart contracts that actually make a network work. Your MAID/BTC dream is a one-trick pony that can’t deliver what MaidSafe needs.

  1. Bitcoin’s Not the Center of the Universe Anymore

You’re stuck in 2014, when Bitcoin was king and everything was priced in BTC. Newsflash: it’s 2025, and Bitcoin’s dominance is down to ~51%. The crypto world isn’t Bitcoin’s playground anymore. Ethereum’s ecosystem—Arbitrum included—has millions of users, developers, and apps, while Bitcoin’s Omni is a ghost town. MAID/BTC only seemed “better” because back then, altcoins rode Bitcoin’s coattails. If Bitcoin went from $50,000 to $100,000 and MAID/BTC stayed at 0.0001, MAID’s dollar value doubled. Big whoop. That’s not MAID being awesome; it’s just math. ANT/USDT doesn’t do that because USDT is stable, and ANT needs its own buyers. That’s not a flaw—it’s how a grown-up market works. Stop dreaming of a Bitcoin dictatorship that’s never coming back.

  1. Your “No One Sells” Fantasy Is Delusional

You say “if no one sells, MAID’s value went up” with Bitcoin. Get real. Markets don’t freeze because you want them to. If Bitcoin moons, people sell MAID to cash out, tanking the MAID/BTC price. Your magical scenario where MAID/BTC stays steady is a fairy tale. Even in your beloved Omni days, MAID’s price swung like a yo-yo if traders dumped it. ANT/USDT needing “a bunch of buyers” to rise? That’s called supply and demand, genius. Every token, including MAID, needs buyers to go up. Your complaint is like crying that water’s wet. Welcome to reality.

  1. Liquidity and Exchanges Ditched MAID/BTC

MAID/BTC is barely a thing anymore because exchanges like Binance and Coinbase moved on. Omni’s low liquidity meant MAID/BTC pairs were thin, with big price swings from tiny trades. USDT pairs, like ANT/USDT, dominate now because they’re liquid, stable, and what traders want. Arbitrum’s fast, cheap transactions (cents, not dollars) make it a no-brainer for tokens like ANT or SAFE. MAID/BTC? It’s like trying to sell a flip phone in an iPhone world. Exchanges aren’t charities—they list what makes money, and MAID/BTC ain’t it. You’re shouting into the void for a pair nobody cares about.

  1. MaidSafe’s Vision Outgrew Bitcoin

MaidSafe isn’t just a token—it’s a decentralized internet with storage, computing, and data sharing. That needs speed, flexibility, and a real ecosystem. Omni and Bitcoin are like a horse and buggy for a rocket ship. Arbitrum gives MaidSafe what it needs: thousands of transactions per second, dirt-cheap fees, and smart contracts to make the SAFE Network actually work. Sticking with MAID on Bitcoin would’ve killed the project, leaving it as a forgotten token with no purpose. Your obsession with MAID/BTC is like wanting a Model T over a Tesla because it’s “classic.” It’s not better—it’s obsolete.

  1. Your ANT/USDT Gripe Is Your Own Problem

You’re mad that ANT/USDT doesn’t “copy” Bitcoin’s trend? Boo-hoo. That’s not Arbitrum’s fault or USDT’s—it’s how markets evolve. ANT needs buyers because it’s judged on its own merits, like Aragon’s governance tech. If you want Bitcoin’s gains, buy Bitcoin, not some altcoin you hope will tag along. Or find a rare SAFE/BTC pair if MaidSafe’s new token is listed, but good luck with that—most traders want USDT for clarity. Your complaint is like whining that your apple stock doesn’t rise with gold prices. Different assets, different rules. Grow up and deal with it.

Why You’re Wrong, in Brutal Summary

Your love for MAID/BTC is a delusional trip down memory lane. Omni’s a slow, dumb, expensive joke that can’t support MaidSafe’s big plans. Bitcoin’s blockchain is a one-trick pony for payments, not decentralized networks. MAID/BTC’s “free” dollar gains were just a quirk of a Bitcoin-obsessed market that’s long gone. Arbitrum and USDT pairs are the future because they’re fast, flexible, and actually useful. ANT/USDT doesn’t follow Bitcoin because it’s not supposed to—altcoins stand on their own now. Stop crying about a dead system, learn how markets work, and move on. If you want MAID’s old vibes, trade Bitcoin or hunt for BTC pairs, but don’t expect the crypto world to rewind time for your outdated fantasy.

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ok can you guys stop buying? I’m still waiting for the dump and my orders haven’t filled yet :roll_eyes:

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43.4844344N,1.5022885W !!!
43.4844344N,1.5022885W !!!

Erosten jarraitu !!!

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0.2 usd has always been a bargain.
0.1 usd is a firesale.

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I’d say they have money for at least a few more years:

Check out the Impossible Futures!

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considering no talented developer will work for less than 80K+ year salary, if this is all their runaway that’s extremele worrisome, i’d say they have to start liquidating ANT within a year time.

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