Yes, there’s some fud and negativity, but that’s ok if we’re respectful enough, which most are. The occasional nastiness isn’t great, but is usually dealt with swiftly thanks to the mods.
People aren’t always great at trying to understand each other & listen sympathetically, but that’s people.
I guess it would be toxic to David’s focus to get bogged down in here. It seems he needs to be laser focused on what he’s doing to get the results he’s seeking.
Of course I’d prefer it if he didn’t caricature & mock our views, but that’s how he sees it.
I massively respect David & think what he’s achieved & is achieving seems truly exceptional… even if he dispises us
Yes, and that’s toxic. I honestly prefer that kind of behavior not being here, no matter who is doing it.
Especially I don’t think @happybeing has deserved the treatment he has gotten.
David has great ideas, it’s very good he is looking into future the he is. That’s clearly the thing he should be doing. So all the best to him in mapping all these hypothetical paths forward and it was great to hear about them.
Now I’m waiting to hear from Nic about the plans for the present moment - end of the year, and all the stuff that is going to be done for the immediate benefit.
That’s true, but it hides the reality which is as stated.
If people had to acquire tokens for uploads by running nodes it would be less good for holders, because uploaders and value would build more slowly. But this would be resilient, decentralised and closer to the fundamentals.
Your entire argument is based on the idea of a single network and how if it fails to maintain the fundamentals that will be the end.
The realistic scenario is that what MaidSafe is doing will lead to a rise in price in the long term, which will attract new capable people to build on the current technology and create copies with a native token.
Yes, once the network is large enough to be a success then a fork would be like saying I am going to fork the “Internet”, the “USENET”, “EMAIL” and all the servers those use and all the servers that are used elsewhere. That means also copying all the data they are holding.
At best a successful full world fork could access the same network, use the same protocols but allow people to run nodes that can be paid otherwise, but then uploaders would need a dual payment (the fork’s native, and Autonomi’s token). But is that a fork or a modded client/node s/w
It would be as you say end up being a specialised network catering to those people who use it without all of Autonomi’s native social networks, datastore, etc. Maybe it could include reading the public files on Autonomi, but that wouldn’t really be classed as part of the fork just an option in the reader app and not the network itself.
The price is reflective of sentiment and the sentiment is in the toilet. The road map has not brought any sense of relief or cause for “optimism”. There is zero clamour out there for this project now, it is as close to being dead in the water as could be and that is both my perception and the perception of long term investors in crypto (outside of this small camp). It’s all just words and ever shifting goalposts.
I have dumped 90% of my Autonomi holdings. Some maid/emaid I held for ten years. This “project” is a huge disappointment, and disappoint is all it ever does. No matter how good it sounds, reality is a dud. Always and forever.
I can’t decide whether the loyal followers are really so gullible (it was a long selection process of getting rid of all the critical thinkers and having this bunch clap every bad and worse decision taken by whoever is responsible for this mess), or they are just dishonest.
David is the victim-card player when all he has to blame is himself and his lack of chops to achieve what he promised. He misled and disappointed for years. Hearing him complain some people only rant about the native coin was the last straw for me. I could use harsher words to describe what I think about him, but it’s pointless – most people here just wanna be deceived anyway I guess.
I think we have to factor in that maidsafe is more than David, as is autonomi. He said a number of times that he is working away on research work, largely on his own. The rest of the team are more concerned with today/tomorrow, rather than a number of years away.
The challenge for the rest of the team will be to maintain focus on delivery and not get too caught in up in the ‘Mars shot’ stuff. Bux has articulated that they aren’t planning on blindly integrating research work. This is also a communication challenge.
Consider it another way. David is happy doing wild research work. The rest of the team are happy delivering a working product.
There are two obvious alternatives to the above, 1) David leaves altogether, 2) Davis becomes more involved in delivery. Imo, neither of these is better. 1 would be bad optics and probably bad for the long term future and 2 would likely slow down delivery (and he would be enjoying it less).
With a mind like David’s, I think you want him doing what he does best - exploring the bleeding edge. That is where he delivers high value and is hard to replace. That shouldn’t be wasted.
Hearing Nic next week may bring things back down to earth, with more solid immediate planning.
Imo, the roadmap was upside down, as is the spaces sequencing. It has drawn the focus into the distant future first, when people were most keen on hearing, in detail, what is planned for the next months.
Exactly my thoughts.
If it were Nic first with the here and now followed by David’s vision for the future I am certain people would be in a totally different mindset.
It’s ok though, @TheGreatTit need not worry, someone will sell his tokens back to him at 10c
That definitely makes sense but what also what I think got me so excited.
Not enough people or projects look that far ahead or move quick enough to get a whole community on that bleeding edge.
It may be slightly unpopular opinion bc I understand the arguments of dev job displacement and AI slop but having an AI API to access the network will allow and empower almost anyone to prompt a personal Autonomi website, app or widget on the fly. That is pretty game changing in my opinion and it could really help flood the network with content (hopefully good and useful content), drive node runners to earn more tokens, and adoption.
If the new NAT actually works, which I would agree with others to be most skeptical of, and almost any device behind any router can join, then IoT is finally coming out of its shell and there can be safe access for everyone in general.
You’d think post quantum cryptography (PQC) is more a brag or buzzy trend but if it gets put through the paces and simple useful apps utilizing it then you better believe politicians, campaigns, whistleblowers and a litany of others will be using it.
All of this is really forward thinking and would bring real world utility. But it has to be real. It has to be proven.
