AUTONOMI Token - Price & Trading topic

Ok thanks. I was thinking about price earlier and it seems like buyers have been able to take 2-3M ANT per month. Does that sound accurate?

We had 3M partyboi and a few others dumping over the last 1.5 months, since 1/2 token distribution, something like 5 or 6M ANT.

This Friday there’s 50M ANT being released, and we have 2/2 token distribution coming not long after. So that should keep the market flooded for a while. You’re estimating more than a year?

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He sells at a loss, he bought at 7-8 cents…


Check out the Impossible Futures!

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More personal attacks from you - avoiding the questions I pose and simply attacking the messenger. Logical fallacies galore - pure sophistry.

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It was a rhetorical question. Only the people running nodes overall (and who constitute the market for data storage) can answer that question for themselves.

You don’t know that. None can predict the future. Further I wonder about your numbers there. Did you make up this 99% or is that a real stat?

On that point we agree.

Why do people think I am not? I’ve mentioned in a few places here that I am working on some things. But regardless of my slow coding abilities, why is wrong for me to ask questions of the management? Taboo questions? No - I will never accept that.

Please direct me to those posts by the leadership. I must have missed them.

Let me be clear - posting video’s in our channels isn’t marketing - it’s masturbation. To market the product, the leaders need to be pushing the message into channels that know nothing about our project - this practically means engaging with people who have large media followings. This hasn’t happened since years before launch … what kind of a launch was that? I won’t speculate on why they chose to do (not do) what they did … I just want answers on what the plan is here – and I’m well within my right to ask.

Discord or here or even on X … when the posts are in our own channels, this isn’t marketing. Speaking to the choir is not marketing.

David did some marketing back in the day - but I suspect he was just invited by various people who were interested in the project. That was fine pre-launch, but now a good marketing strategy is to PAY for promotions - and it’s not like they don’t have the funds to do it - it pays for itself.

Bitcoin is a different animal from a different time. There is no predicting the future. But inaction by the management is certainly not helping that future look brighter.

The world has to know about the project to have any interest in it. BTC marketed itself as it was a novel store of value - people were encouraged to promote it for their own profit. That’s not what we have here with :ant:.

Good to know she’s said something about it - frankly though, that statement is simply a cop-out - sounds like she’s making excuses for not doing the work. Marketing the project is about promoting the ideas of the network to wide audiences around the space. There are many many innovative ideas that :ant: has - so plenty to talk about and plenty to market. If what you say here is true, it’s very disappointing.

If they are too busy to do the marketing - then they need to hire people to do it … however, marketing of a product like this really needs to CEO and CTO (David) to step up to the plate and get out there to push the ideas of the network. To not do this is really shirking responsibility at this stage of the game.

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“Inaction by the management”
You good? Maybe try the “management working every week and displaying summaries every Thursday for a decade” kind of good, instead. It’s not time for marketing yet. “Masturbation” has its place (it doesn’t replace all), unless you’re Crazy.

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It would help to hear more about what they are busy with. We see some of the output but I have little idea what they are spending time on and what they are achieving, or what’s likely as the network, APIs, early apps become solid.

All I’m aware of is some folk ready to begin larger uploads, to which I have mixed feelings - and how helpful that is depends very much on who they are and what they might do. I’m not saying they should reveal that - just pointing this out. If, for example they had the Internet Archive lined up I’d be over the moon, but if it’s obscure or blockchain only stuff the PR and marketing value of that would be very different.

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I agree with that. I was just answering your notion she and David disappeared/abandoned us/the project. It’s not so; Bux does reply to questions on Discord, and David is probably busy with coding.

The forum does feel deserted lately; it also made me slightly despondent, went to Discord to ease my anxiety. It worked, haha.

I fully agree that marketing to us is pointless and the project must find its path to the outter world. We have been up our butts for ten years and it would be wise to face how the general public sees the project and its promise. I have no idea what’s cooking, if anything. But I’m sure they realize marketing needs to kick it up eventually.

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Attacking the messenger. Insinuating my message isn’t worth listening too as I’m mentally unstable. Fallacious logic and sophistry.

Not relevant. If they can’t do what needs to be done, then they should hire more to get the work done that needs to be done.

Subjective. You didn’t provide and argument either. I have provided an argument for why they should be and many here agree with me (bandwagon fallacy :rofl:.) … but indicates that perhaps I’m not crazy.

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You stop telling lies about the project, its staff and their assumed motivations and I’ll stop telling the truth about you.

Deal?

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We have an update on Thursday every week. No other crypto project does that.

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Don’t know if there are many in the forum who still has Emaid.

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HarryPotterSonicObama10Inu maybe doesn’t. Most legit projects do. Most depin projects have been through all the tough phases years ago and either learnt their lessons or died along the way, yet people here act like autonomi is the only legit decentralized project outside of bitcoin and everything else is a shitcoin, so they refuse to apply those hard-learnt lessons and are dumbfounded by the price crash even though it is clear as day why it is happening and what needs to be done (and we’ve been saying it since day one of the ANT/mainnet but have been mocked repeatedly for it :man_shrugging:).

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Ignore him…..he is a waste of space. Stop replying to him and reading his posts…..that’s what I did. Knowing he wastes his own time writing for no replies is quite satisfying

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99% was symbolic of the fact nodes are very empty just now (way less than 35gb per node).

The implication of this is that we could have a huge portion of nodes leaving the network and likely not face data loss, which you were raising concerns about.

I’m also confident that a good portion of current nodes aren’t too concerned about short term token value because if they were, they’d already have left.

So, no, I don’t know the future, I was just stating why I think the scenario you outlined of data loss from nodes leaving due to low token price seems unlikely to play out. (edit: this would be a very different situation if the network were fairly mature with full nodes; the ‘death spiral’ situation from nodes leaving in that case is a real risk)

Nothing wrong with asking questions respectfully, but bashing the team & implying they’re stupid probably isn’t productive.

I’d also like to hear their response to the current situation, and wouldn’t mind asking questions. But I wouldn’t say they’re not doing their job because they’re not trying to pump the token price.

They are taking actions that can build demand medium term from a stable base, and that’s far more important to me than token price in the coming few months.

This is true, but why do that now with a poor user experience vs in just a few weeks time with a decent experience for people to engage with following Impossible Futures releases & other community dev progress?

To me it seems the same marketing effort would be multiplied in its effectiveness if the network user experience were decent, and that seems like something that is achievable in a short time, so worth keeping the pedal to the metal on product before shifting more focus to marketing.

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I am tired of the hopium and copium addicts. The same ones that claimed people were spreading “negativity” the same ones clearly blinded by the multi years price decline. Either we have something that is marketable now in which case it’s a lack of competence on the marketing side or we don’t in which case we have what I referenced in hyperbolic terms as “hot air” and yes, the tokenomics is a car crash too.

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All this pathetic whining from those who have rarely bothered to contribute anything other than pathetic pleas for money.

And there are those who have NEVER contributed anything to move the project forward.
Yes looking at you @realistiCinvestor and @WeeBert - all whine and bugger all to contribute except hot air and outrage.

Don’t like the way things are going?
Sell your tokens and go.
You were NOT offered a get-rich-quick scheme when you invested.
You were NOT offered any guarantees of ANYTHING
You took a gamble - plain and simple.
So far your gamble has not paid off.

You are as pathetic as a bunch of jakies outside the bookies whining at a pile of losing slips from the 3:30 at Kempton Park.

So @realistiCinvestor, its us that are tired of YOU.
Away rattle your gums elsewhere.

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But nothing unites like a common enemy - what do we do all day if they leave?! :exploding_head:

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We criticise @JimCollinson for having lovely geetars hanging on his wall and not playing them for us :musical_notes:

regularly - always thought the Spaces would be best started with Jim giving us some nice twang as a 30 sec opener

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Then @Bux singing is a must. 30 seconds each!

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@bux and @JimCollinson !!!

Peters and Lee eat your heart out…

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