AUTONOMI Token - Price & Trading topic

Do you think this might resolve itself over time, as least in terms of media retrieval speeds?

Historically monitors had to improve to keep up with the higher resolutions, but that might be coming to an end. The max resolution of video needed by any normal person would be 8k due to limitations of human eye. I’m sure VR & neuralink future style content would be more eventually, but for basic desktop monitors let’s just say 8k.

So the hardware/bandwidth to support this minimum level should eventually be affordable enough that most nodes would support it by default. So it might just be a waiting game, instead of changing the architecture to somehow incentivize faster nodes.

I’m sure most of the concern is streaming content right now, so I’ve not addressed other content types like large data-sets etc which where it would still be nice to have higher and higher download speeds :slight_smile:

No reason to not have @loziniak bring the best of that into his attempt.

Why wait? You say that as if they can’t be carried out concurrently. The team isn’t being distracted, @loziniak is investing himself.

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This will not be a function of the nodes. But will be a function of the viewer’s (downloader) internet connection. The viewing will be requesting multiple chunks at once and keeping a buffer topped up as the video is playing.

This means that the player just has to be configured properly to have a buffer, just like vlc does now.

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Yes, I think this is true, at least in specific areas, as you highlight. This is when ‘fast enough’ becomes the goal.

There will always be use cases that push specific boundaries, for their own specialist reasons. Humans interacting with an app usually requires latency of a few seconds or better though.

Likewise, for over the counter payments, they need to be quick enough that you aren’t hanging about causing a queue. I’ve often tapped my card and had to wait 5-10 seconds (or more in rarer cases) for the payment to go through. That’s fine. It doesn’t need to be 100 ms or whatever. What is more important is having 100,000s of shops being able to get the same 5-10 second latency, for example.

When you consider what broadband speeds are capable of vs what they are used for, it’s a good example. 1 GB download is a huge amount of data (for today, at least). You could probably have 40-50 4K video streams over that! Latency is also tiny - 10ms or so - which is good for 100 FPS on a game (which actually pushes this boundary), but voice chat can be 100s of ms without noticing. Website clicks in the seconds, especially if there is a visual confirmation response.

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Yeah, that’s very true too.

Being able to tune the buffers for higher latency, but with high/higher bandwidth would be ideal.

VLC actually does a pretty decent job of that once it gets going. You actually see it take a while to understand the video (read a bit at the start, then a bit at the end, then it starts buffering) and then you notice the bandwidth usage drop to a trickle (as it provides back pressure on the HTTP connection, as it doesn’t need more data yet).

How the video is encoded can also make a big difference. Being able to quick start and skip to different locations is an example here. Tuning upload format is an area folks need to experiment with.

The default video players in the browsers are likely relatively simple for this sort of tuning. I’m sure there are better options for browser clients too.

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Like here?

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Being intellectually honest is more productive, go read those documents you quoted once more you find through an llm. Perhaps use the chain once or twice.

Now, if you would have read my words carefully, i specifically acknowledged autonomi is designed for data, not for finance. That is a problem If you care about price go up. A layer 1 without any mechanism for locked liquidity will be of no interest to smart investors.

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You can have an interest in a promising technology while at the same time coming to the conclusion it is not a good investment because of several reasons but foremost tokenomics, marketing and liquidity. I’ve come to that conclusion after investigating thoroughly, and will hold off buying until either those factors improve or the prices comes down to a reasonable level. But you are right, probably I have spent too much of my time here, it seems this forum is mostly a group of 10 or so die-hards who are here for 10 years and who never see any troubles with the project even though hardly any new people are interested in the project. And those who are here since that long also mostly aren’t involved in any other crypto projects and thus often have no clue what already has been built, why it worked/failed, what autonomi USP could be, etc. In conclusion, it is a fun project to dabble around with as a hobby but hard to take serious as an investment. I will check back in a few months.

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exactly my thoughts

we are having a go fund me for some bear traps if you want to chip in :slight_smile:

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I’ll let others iterate over that loop again.

I’m still waiting for you to explain the trade off.

So data is worthless, as are the tokens that can be exchanged for the storage of it? Right-o!

I suppose we’re better off sniffing fart coin or willy waving incorrect finality figures.

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I bet you will be back long before then…

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Wait what, me to you? Just wow :joy:

there is a guy at my work who is obsessed with that pi project and from what I understand its some kind of scheme to harvest peoples data from there phones and annoy them with pokes.

I have never once thought about going over to the PI forums to FUD there project even though I do shut pi boy down very quickly when he comes doing his brand ambassador routine :rofl:

why bother wasting time and energy on something you think is failing or not going anywhere ??

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Make hay while the FUD is shining. Fill up ya boots.

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Why u think this? With native coin there is zero fees and almost instant I think.

We do see the problems with the project. It’s just that we are actually trying to make some progress while also recognising certain realities we need to deal with in the short term.

That’s fine. If you’ve reached your conclusion, why not go and find another project where you can make a positive contribution?

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3M partyboi is down to 6 and counting!

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you mean Robin Hood god bless his generous soul :smiley:

dear Robin if you want to hurry up and get rid of your last coins the community faucet would gratefully accept the remnants of your bag :slight_smile:

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630k to go… we’ll see if that’s just the first of multiple addresses. Maybe he’s just getting the party started :smile: :partying_face:

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