Believing Omni is not the problem is just delusional.
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Because the focus is on delivering the product, and when that is done it wonât matter. See this big post, just published:
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David, youâr humbleness and and down to earth spirit resonates very well with the nordic way of thinking which I value very high. The trust for you, the team and the community is if you all are family.
Iâam not so worried as I know that Maidsafe have porbably set up enough capital for a medium term because I know that you guys know the same thing as me, that the market can be hevaly volatile for a short to medium term time frame.
When knowing the reach of the US regulation and how they handle interests in the past I want to take the oportunity raise security awareness, air-gap, property surveilence with cameras and staff and so on, even though I know you and the team probably know and think about this questions alot. Dont want a public discussion about security, I think it should be in a close group within the company, just want to raise the awareness. The swedish inventor of positioning system and color displays, HĂ„kan Lans, got his invention stolen despite patents. "
In 1995, a representative of the Delphi & Co Law Firm contacted the inventor and explained that the agency would help him to raise money from a number of computer companies. The representative said he had a connection with a reputable patent lawyer who could convey contacts in the United States.
This lawyer had earlier been a senior official in the Pentagon". Long story short, HĂ„kan Lans got screwed big time.
Laws and regulationions dont seem to apply for those that makes them, if there is a strong interest I believe there is a risk that they will hack or do whatever it takes to get a hold of or controll of what they want. Everything will probably go well but better to be SAFE then sorry. 
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Totally supported. For Safeâs case I would expect a similar stance from Google or other big corporations. It is better to be cautious than sorry.
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depressing.
curious to know how low it will go.
I would agree to move on ERC20, and take this occasion to rebrand MAID to name a little more sexy.
Also take this opportunity to give the new token a utility value on the future safenetwork, to reward us, early adopters who have been holding in spite of headwinds.
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Their token removal policy makes it sound like the it is partly a scam designed to steal the coins of users who either do not have high enough withdrawal limits or who didnât check their website for a couple weeks. They may have legitimate reasons from the SEC, but is there anything that suggests theyâre not planning to steal the coins of those who canât withdraw quickly enough?
We generally seek to provide up to 14 days for users to withdraw their tokens after the date that a market or token is delisted. Please withdraw your token from the Exchange prior to the withdrawal deadline. After this date, we will be unable to help effectuate withdrawals from the exchange. As such, users should withdraw any delisted tokens that they have before the withdrawal deadline.
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Woah I actually got a really quick response from Bittrex on my question regarding the delisting:
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Hi Jeremy,
Bittrex looks at various criteria when deciding to list or delist a coin.
These include but are not limited to: ongoing developments, technical innovation, blockchain network health, social media, community engagement, market cap, volume, coin distribution.
If you feel strongly about a particular coin, you may contact the developers. Feel free to discuss the coinâs merits in Bittrex Slack (http://slack.bittrex.com).
If a coin is marked for removal please finish any trades you would like on this coin and make sure to remove the coins by clicking Wallets, searching for the coin, and clicking the - to bring up the withdraw page.
Best Regards,
Titan @ Bittrex
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Off to slack to fight our case or hear what their devs have to say on reasoning.
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can we just launch safecoin network in minimum MVP form (i.e only support wallet functionality, no farming, no storage) and at least give it some utility and we dont need to rely on Omni and dont need to deal with ERC migration debate.
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We all agree.
The focus unquestionably should be on delivering, and when delivering is on the horizon, a transition would indeed, be waste.
But when will the product be delivered?
With the speed of development weâve witnessed I will be pleasantly surprised if it took two years, and if I am right, then why not enjoy two years of all the advantages an ERC-20 token has to offer?!
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This is not possible, so this suggestion makes no sense.
Hcash, Qtum and several other coins employ the same strategies, launch the network first with minimum functionality (basically just a wallet feature). make it look like they are functional network
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It is tedious answering you in two topics. Your suggestion is not possible no matter how many places you make it. Please keep this to one topic.
ok, easy solution, letâs fork Omni into Safecoin and use their wallet feature and with all safecoin codebase frozen, we are still safenetwork functional with added-on Omni wallet feature. We can naturally migrate the whole maidsafecoin ledger to safecoin-with-Omni-wallet network. Once the safecoin code fully ready, we then cut off the Omni code base.
This way, we basically launch the safenetwork with a Omni wallet embed.
Huh?! Are you suggesting to âlaunchâ by using an omni token integrating omniwallet into the safenetwork browser?!
So⊠We then would have an omni token running on the bitcoin blockchain 
⊠Not connected to safecoin at all and with 100% different properties⊠This token would need to be exchanged into safecoin later on on an 1:1 basis when real safecoin are ready for launch OoâŠ
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To store 100s of millions of maidsafecoin? On an alpha network, which has not been hardened? Iâd rather stick with omni, tbh.
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it is the same Omni, so it is harden, just added-on top of safenetwork.
With respect, I donât think you understand the technicalities of what you are suggesting. It is like suggesting it is easy to make a plane by ductaping a barn door to the roof of a car.
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Worth a shot. Iâm in
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Have you looked into listing on lykke exchange? I live in the UK and this is how I get my fiat into the coinmarket. Lykke are based in Lichtenstein. They seem like a pretty ethical exchange to me and their support team are very responsive. They are begining to list new coins weekly at the moment. They have also announced partnering with bitshares recently. Hope this is of some help. Keep up the good work.
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tradesatoshi.com seems to be OK as well. They trade in low volume coins and add coins others donât. And are in the UK too
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