I looked but they seem puny to me. Not enough RAM for ex.
Iāve not tried it for a long time, but heard similar views a while back, tried it & it was beyond useless for the one or two applications I attempted to try, though as I say, it was a long time ago (probably 3+ years), so it may be much better now.
Edit: I just looked up 3 random bits of software Iād like to use on Linux for WINE compatibility, and all 3 are rated āgarbageā for compatibilityā¦ if that is in any way representative, wine is probably not particularly useful.
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16 GB is not enough memory? You need a desktop, not a laptop, man. 
I only use the 15" laptop for travel.
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I use the NixOS distro of Linux. The documentation isnāt great, but I love the concept. The nix package manager is based on the principle of a declarative and deterministic build process, which in practice means upgrades are much less painful than in Arch (allegedly. I havenāt really tried Arch).
One of my first Linux distros was Gentoo, so I definitely appreciate the strength of great documentation.
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I tend to āinvestā so I get a bigger buzz and donāt have to update too often. 16GB might last me another 8 years, but probably not besides, carrying my laptop about is the only exercise I get so the weight helps
Looking at the prices for 16GB v 32 or 64 though, I am still in two minds. I will probably go big though. Old habits 
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Hmhmm - always wanted to try out qubes - but the most important thing to me is to stay productive and not loose days/weeks with installation / getting stuff back running how it was before ā¦ (thatās why iām a ubuntu person - it just works ā¦)
is there much to know when coming from a standard debian based linux and wanting to use qubes or is it all still basically the same when using it ā¦? (what do i do if a program is only offered as debian package - can i get that up and running in qubes or need i source code to compile it myself?)
Qubes is more mature in that aspect, just install and go.
You might need to get used to having different VMs for different tasks, but once you get used to the compartmentalization it will just work.
Certain things might stop working though, for example, if you are used to using Yubikeys and U2F it can be quite a challenge (I havenāt figured it out yet how to make it work), or if you are used to using your wireless card in monitor mode for pentesting wireless networks for example, well considering that there are specific VM that works as a proxy/firewall for all the other VMs you need to do some extra tinkering to not break the OS security.
This may help: The Invisible Things Lab's blog: Playing with Qubes Networking for Fun and Profit
But for normal stuff, it is quite straightforward.
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oh well that sounds way better than last time i talked to someone 
thank you very much! i guess i will have a look at it when i have some spare time time again =)
i started using qubesOS on my second computer i studied qubes OS at free time and finally i removed windows and installed Qubes OS. Aditionall i configured VM with Windows 7 for tests and application not worked on qubes
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I have a dual boot rig with Windows 7 for gaming and Manjaro Linux for everything else. My laptop has Manjaro Linux on it for all the tech and creative stuff I do. Been thinking of getting a dedicated gaming laptop.
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I use Fedora <3 And i want to go to Qubes OS because itās the best OS !
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The biggest issue with Qubes is hardware compatibility. If you have a standard setup with integrated graphics it will generally install OK. Provided it does you have both Debian and Fedora plus a Debian based Tor VM installed out of the box - three for the price of one (free). Qubes is not a Linux distro so much as a virtualization platform with a number of distros bundled with it as standard in a security focused way. You can install other Linux distros on it and even Windows 7 if you want. If youāre already familiar with Linux itās not hard to use at all. Donāt make it your gaming PC though.
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What I like best about Qubes OS is the vision. Who the hell says āall operating systems are inherently insecure, Iām going to build a better oneā and then goes ahead and does just that? Joanna Rutkowska thatās who.
Even if I had the remotest idea how to do something like that I wouldnāt have the drive and perseverance to make it happen. I love that ground-up approach to problem solving and deeply respect those who take risks to pursue their vision, whether itās successful or not. Thatās also why Iām here, not so coincidentally.
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NixOS sounds interesting. Just looked it up and itās been around since 2003. Why do you like it? Is it mostly the concept?
I like that upgrading is easy. I like that I can copy my system configuration to a new machine and build the same environment.
I like the nix package manager for development, but you donāt have to use NixOS to get that. You can use it with any linux distro, or even on Macs.
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Linux Mint on Ubuntu 16 under the hood 4.4.1ā¦ running on a beefy i5 4 core Toshiba Satellite wth 4GB, does everything I need and fast, only planned upgrade is an SSD, I dont need the extra memory like MS Windows forces you into,
also as a side note: I run peppermint OS (Ubuntu 16) on an old 2009 iMAC, and it works ok for certain purposes, still has a great screen, dual 64bit Intel core with 2GB, so a minimalist machine regular spinning rust ā¦ more than enough for casual browsing and writing. and also playing streaming videos (provided you have 50Gbit/sec download speeds) The only comment here on the old iMac is the tab protection in Chrome is a bit heavy in terms of memory and clock speed use, so better off to use a stripped down fast browser, and make sure you have ad popop up blocking turned onā¦ , its also damned quiet and the refresh rates is 2msec on the screen so easy on the eyesā¦ certainly ok for lightweight interactive Python interpretive work in the QA and Test space, and small compile jobs in other languagesā¦
So if you need a 2nd machine for the above in the study, den, Kitchen save some bucks and get an old 2009 iMac dual Intel core, bump it to 3GB and switch out the drive for a decent SSD and you are there for under US $ 200.00 in most cases
The only real downfall is there is no HDMI to drive video IPTV to a big SCreen, the DVD/CD is built in and works greatā¦
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Iāll check it out.
Where is that useful, practically speaking?
Well, not often, to be honest.
But I do have a laptop and a desktop, and if a harddrive dies, I have the configuration saved so that I can quickly rebuild with a new harddrive.
Yeah iv recently read about librem stuff on there and i am pretty sure the laptop is worth it, id get one by myself, but when i bought the laptop that i use atm i didnāt know about librem and such stuff, so im on bios, you know. but in the futureā¦ 
Iv been having similar stuff, i only ran heroes 3 of might and magic pretty well on wine and heroes of might and magic iv but it was crashing sometimes, and that was it, had issues with other games. So i decided to ditch windows games completely for linux native games, as i donāt really use steam as well.
Windows game arenāt nice as well, i went through it and played most of em, theyāre all like killing and getting experience for it and levelsā¦ so dull, suck a waste of existence 
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I started using arch linux around 2006, havenāt found the desire to use anything else since
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