Southside changes role from support-ant to carrot-cake-making-ant 
Iām off to do grate things.
here is a random website template i uploaded just to check how things are going
4000 nanos almost went up in one go 
awe awv://ba9d607a8ee197c4b499767c6cb362e0dcadbc4dd58d1dbff64719fda1c2127aac073811572eb26ec6e2bcdd4b92f85771d3456449a720f165369a1647a542e79f35e6cc1f2a7e97d00bc76a8621c33a
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about 4000 if i remember correctly. im stuck behind a udp blocking firewall so i couldnāt test how it looked.
i just chucked up an unedited template from git hub to see what would happen.
if you need nanos I have them available 
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Amazing!! tested on macOS awe browser. it took a while to load completelly but the browser did not crash so!!
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Neither awe or the Autonomi APIs are designed for speed yet. For a real Browser there are many ways things can be sped up and I expect the APIs will get much faster too.
The main point of awe is as a demo of several things and it has achieved that.
I had intended to go further but am not feeling like doing so now and taking a pause to see how things feel in a while.
Itās really odd to be not desperate to get on and do the next thing, and to have spent the first day in years not visiting the forum yesterday - and feel so content. I seldom if ever feel content so for me this is interesting.
This has happened very quickly due to the bad taste recent discussions gave me and the unsatisfactory (for me) way that that played out after hanging in there despite the difficulties I experienced the past months. Now when I imagine getting back into this it feels awful - very strange for me.
But right now Iām in a good place that doesnāt have much Autonomy in it, and that is novel and strange after the past decade.
Hence my need to wait and see.
I really donāt know where this goes for me now.
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Really appreciated your work. Really. You did great job for all of us i think 
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Agree with that we all appreciate everything you have done and hope this is only temporary and that we are not losing you.
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I donāt understand the reasons or what happened but hope you be back soon.
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Night is darkest just before dawn
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I may just be picky but I donāt believe thatās true 
Thanks for the sentiment though, your presence and support is appreciated.
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Hey, @happybeing I am super happy to see you around again!! I am working on it, I will keep you posted!!
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Please stop!
Firstly I jumped the gun and forgot that I need to upload something before I can build for a network reset. So I will need nanos and then to do a new version.
However, now they are turning the project into a Blockchain based system for the foreseeable future, Iām not sure there is any point in doing further work on this or any other app.
Iām not here to build apps that rely on and use a Blockchain, and Iām absolutely amazed that anyone apart from Bux thinks this is either sensible or consistent with the principles that have attracted people to invest in the project.
So Iām really sorry to say this, but for now I canāt see me supporting or building for the project.
Most of the things Iāve been holding up as important and different about it have been destroyed by the plan Bux has published today.
All thatās left is a meaningless vague intention to - one day, maybe - turn the native token on.
It seems unlikely that will ever happen, and even if it does itās pretty obvious that the ERC-20 token will remain so this is now a very different project than it was only yesterday, after a decade of support by many of us. Thatās it. Gone, and screw the lot of us.
I have to say I was shocked when I heard someone say a couple of weeks ago - who is one of the biggest supporters of this project - that they were worried that David has sold out, but thatās hard to argue against after reading todayās plan.
This is no longer the Safe Network @dirvine has been trying to build for 18 years and I do not believe it ever can be now. Not under this management, and not with this approach.
No wonder they have been hiding how badly things were going and pretending all was going to be fine, and launch would still happen in October. I knew we were being lied to, but itās worse, they have treated us like fools.
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The reality exists - people literally get thrown in jail for writing code or speaking their mind.
What can you do in such a world?
You do whatās up to you today and hope that the madness will end sooner or later, because sooner or later everything changes.
The main problem I see is that many people fantasize that there is a world in which there is only one Autonomous network, this is not the case and cannot be, because nothing in the world is only one. There are many countries, many peoples, many corporations, and there will be many Autonomous Networks.
Does it matter if the code you write will run on this network or another one created by the community?
Create for the future! 
Privacy. Security. Freedom
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I doubt going to ERC will change that.
The native token is auditable and not private anyhow.
So not much difference. This is more about how to get people on/off ramping and realising their shares/tokens
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Latest awe news
Iāve uploaded awe v0.8.0 for Linux to https://downloads.happybeing.com so that folk can now use it with the new network to publish and view websites, and see each published version of a website.
You will need nanos to publish but there are generous folk watching this topic who will donate if you ask here.
The ever vigilant @aatonnomicc spotted this update of awe and had already used it to upload his website before I could announce this. His website should appear in the built-in awe-some-sites index just as soon as the network decides to reflect the change to the Register (currently 60 minutes and counting).
As others upload I will update the awe-some-sites index so everyone has new things to browse.
Versioned file system
awe also serves to demonstrate a simple versioned file-system (see awe inspect-files --help for example) although I have no plans to develop that or any other features of awe (see āBackgroundā).
Developers - note that awe demonstrates how to use Autonomi registers (if you look at the code) and includes a handy subcommand that you can use to see information about and the values stored in a register (try awe inspect-register --help).
Background
Iāve halted my development because Autonomi is no longer working towards the vision or fundamentals that underlay this project for the decade Iāve been a part of it. They say they are but the choices revealed in the September plan go against this. I could say much about why I believe that but not here.
As a result Iām not willing to put my effort into what I now believe is about building value for people who do not share our vision, at the expense of everyone it was meant to help.
Regardless, I donāt wish to stand in the way of people still trying to make this work (not least the dev team and of course app developers) - I hope it can deliver. So I think it is worth having a demo for now of one of the features we were hoping it would achieve - the versioned web - and useful example code.
Beware though, even today Iām seeing bugs that make be skeptical not only about the January deadline even if they werenāt having to integrate a blockchain token. Unless the target is now as I fear, a storage platform for crypto businesses and not a level playing field for everyone.
MacOS
@makkomaster you wonāt be able to do an update until there is a release of the API to crates.io which contains this change. That has been merged into main, but it needs to be merged into stable, and then a new release of Autonomi, followed by an updated build of awe.
Thereās no way to know when that will happen so we will only have the Linux build for this network for the time being.
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But wouldnāt it be a step forward for humanity? Rome wasnāt built in a day.
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I donāt really want to get into this on this topic but have also not wanted to spend ages writing up my thoughts.
What I will say is that Iāve thought this through, based not only on what people see here but on my experience trying to build on the network. IMO the wrong things are being prioritised if the aim is to build a network for everyone. There may be reasons this can no longer be done, but if so they remain hidden.
Based on my experiences and the information we do have, I have major concerns and have been very disappointed in the explanations from Autonomi, some of which are sophistry.
The core problem is that Blockchain integration is not a āstepping stoneā but risks leading the project astray, into a backwater where it may remain captured by VC style business, just like so many other things in the past.
Capture by established businesses and VC style investors was what the project was trying to change before it began to pivot this year, and the September plan takes it completely in the opposite direction.
To succeed the network needs large scale adoption by individuals as a counter to business and centralised power influences, but the September plan goes in the other direction.
For example, the network doesnāt even work over mobile connections - consider the implications of that for use by individuals versus businesses built on data centres. The former wonāt be able to use it while the latter will be able to cut their costs.
Then ask why addressing that isnāt a top priority.
Now add Blockchain instead of the networkās native token whose many advantages over Blockchain was until a couple of weeks ago, a major selling point.
How will that affect adoption? Itās the worst possible thing I can imagine Autonomi deciding to do.
The explanation we were given is that thereās no choice, but we havenāt been given a proper explanation of why that is the case.
We were told it was because on and off ramps are needed. But those are not needed for mass adoption by individuals if almost everyone can run a node. āRampsā do enable investors to exit and other large investors and established crypto businesses and VCs to get involved. The kind of people who Bux probably has on speed dial. It would be good to be able to use such contacts to support and boost the network, but not at expense of its reason for being.
Instead of focusing on mass adoption by individuals this project is being driven into the arms of anonymous partners who we may deduce are Blockchain friendly established players, until we know otherwise.
We are kept in the dark so I have to speculate to an extent, but until we see otherwise it would be stupid to assume anything else.
There may be reasons why David says itās this or nothing. Perhaps they have a limited amount of time, due to finance or a limited time for Bux or David to deliver for their own reasons. We donāt know.
So until we know otherwise it doesnāt appear that this is the only option, and the need for on and off ramps doesnāt IMO justify the choices being made - because ramps can come later - and because I believe these choices have put the entire vision in jeopardy.
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Today is the first time I read this tread. Amazing work you doing!!
Many things seem off, like why no maidsafe team help in creating AWE? The work you are doing not really recognized (or Bambu garden incentivized?).
Thanks again HB
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We may have been too obsessed with coins. Rather, it may be better to allow nodes to flexibly decide the payment method. As a result, it may be good to have hundreds of payment methods in Autonomy. We have been saying that we will introduce a decentralized data network to the world, but havenāt we actually been focusing on financial rewards? If a single currency were to be incorporated into Autonomy, people from the third world who do not have access to coin exchanges would be completely excluded or would start far behind citizens of so-called developed countries. In the long run, I think that having flexibility in payment methods will increase the probability of survival of the network, and although it may decrease slightly, it will provide us with sufficient financial rewards.
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