Ah, ok.
So you’re more concerned about data map safety?
You could store a salt in a scratchpad, which was needed to encrypt to decrypt senstive data, such as a data map.
It could provide a sort of dead man’s handle to attempt to foil datamap theft, i.e. you delete/change it to something incorrect, asap.
Ofc, if the thief has already found and copied the salt, then bets are off. However, it does allow you to defuse a lost datamap that no one has found yet.
The issue for sensitive private data is that if the keys may be compromised, even if you delete the keys, anyone who any time in the future gets access to those keys will be able get your files if you can’t delete the chunks.
Which is why for now I think Autonomi is best suited for public data where permanence is a big benefit.
That is why using a pre-encrypt APP that also uploads the file is the best way since there is no salt, no storing of pointers and the file can be uploaded as public as well. The encrypt key can be stored in the account blob so that its all accessible online. If anyone gets your pass phrase to the account blob then you lose more than just a private file. Prior to account blob appearing then you just provide a pass phrase to the encrypt APP
To me this is so simple, solves those worried about ultra sensitive data being exposed as its an APP level solution requiring no changes to the core node code nor additional work elsewhere or adding levels of indirection.
Yes, pre encrypting a file is definitely a simple solution.
There are more elaborate options with different benefits and compromises though.
That’s good though. We don’t need one size fits all for non-public data. Folks have varying levels of comfort to address, I suppose.
Let’s all get fired right into the API docs when they are published and ensure we have such best practices.
If they can upload a private file then they could use such an APP, maybe the app is doing other things like maintaining their health records and does this automatically for the person. It could be a fork of the Client App that does this on the fly for the person. Claiming its more difficult is wrong.
Trying to get the person to setup indirections etc sounds harder for the person not to mention the extra upload costs to write those pointers and maintain them and securely store on your machine the pointer map to access them. That sounds like more work for the person and/or whatever app written to do it.
My comment on ease of use still applies
It’s the start of a commercial journey ,the launch is, not so much an event, the race is on, and Autonomi will sprint into the lead into what is the ‘Internet Steeple Chase’ to an Internet form that is for the people managed by the people.
This is not the game of ‘Highlander, there can only be one’.
There will be bridges and gateways built in the future to Autonomi, as similar efforts emerge, or as existing projects morph to build up and join in, to create a much bigger Internet that serves the people in a distributed fashion owned by the people, likely to settle into a form,
imo, we can sort of imagine what ‘it’ might look like,
but can not quite define ‘it’ in any detail right now. All good!
We can be all but certain though, that in about 10 years, as the banksters wane in into the horizon,
we will see the reclaimed ‘distributed Internet of everything’ emerge as the dominant way we interact on a daily basis.
Exciting times 
Kudos, David Irvine and to the team at Maidsafe, and kudos to the community for hanging in there!
Let the Journey begin!
@rreive I agree that this is the autonomi killer app opportunity. @JimCollinson has recently talked of the Autonomi User driven Agent opportunity and @dirvine the core role of our personal ai agent. One of the best explanations of a “distributed AI Agentic Framework” opportunity for Autonomi is from Neuroscientist Charlie Northrups Agentic Hyperconnected Universe (HCU) economy model for autonomous networks combined with his UFoT ai augmented tool designed .
I’m thinking about how this Agentic HCU economy’s value creation formula can be applied to/interact with the Autonomi network economics from the User perspective. e.g. data payments etc.