Update 30th January, 2025

Never had a PIMMS in a pub, and I wouldn’t choose to start in Glasgee for fear of a nozee or nut.

Ayl have dram thanks :tumbler_glass:

…a large one ffs. :rofl:

I’ll be happy to make you a fine PIMMS if you ever find yourself in need of a rest by the canal here. There are pubs of course if you don’t have the bottle. :wink:

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Fantastic update. I’m looking forward to the API being released when it’s ready, and upload/download issues being fixed.

Seems amazing to think that in just over a week there will be a live Autonomi economy :star_struck:

Very pleased to see this caveat stated clearly for now… seems like the right way to do it. Live economy, but not promising too much too soon.

No rush. If the economy works fine without them once uploads are working smoothly and there are some cool apps, feel free to use the tokens to support app devs & other ecosystem development instead :wink: :wink:

Amazing work team Autonomi team on delivering what you have already, and I wish you the best in the coming weeks and months as Autonomi gets out into the wild :partying_face:

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I will be delighted to ensure your tumbler of malt stays full all night. :tumbler_glass:

Have to admit ChatGPT and DeepSeek struggled with this one though…

I’ll be happy to take you up on that - Do these pubs sell zoider in case I need a mouthwash afterwards?

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BitMart is not allowed in the UK.

Can I use BitMart in the UK?

Firms and individuals cannot promote financial services in the UK without the necessary authorisation or approval. This firm is not authorised by us and may be targeting people in the UK. Search our Warning List for other unauthorised firms and individuals we’re aware of. 6 Sept 2024

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personally i find this idea, outlook, much more exciting and interesting than whether Bitcoin goes up or down :smile:

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You are thinking of buying or selling and not promoting? It does not seem to say you can’t use the exchange for buying or selling.

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Is this talking of promotion?

IE advertising, etc in the UK. Providing services is different to promoting.

Now is there another clause that also prevents providing the services?

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Its never stopped me.

I just successfully withdrew my Emaid off BitMart for the TGE 4 Emaid fee IIRC

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It’s another HitBTC waiting to happen. It doesn’t fulfil the requirements to be used by UK residents. Use it at your own risk. I use it using a VPN, but only for small amounts. If this is the exchange for the new token I can see lots of problems ahead. Between this and the Arbitrum thing with the eth token lots of folk are going to lose their tokens. But what do I know, I’ve only been in crypto for 7 years and I’m struggling to decipher what’s going on. Good luck to you all on the day of reckoning.

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You could be right. And southside has protected himself

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I totally agree, I only ever keep gambling funds on there.

We have to be realistic, getting on any new exchange is difficult, we are already on BitMart, so its a no-brainer for now.

Or is that a no-option for now?

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Emaid is on BitMart, but UK residents aren’t eligible to use it, so it’s at your own risk if you do. Maid token is still being traded on HitBTC, but UK residents aren’t eligible for that either. I’m certainly not able to use it, and I still have a huge bag of Maid tokens stuck on it. I sent the tokens to sell over a year ago, but still getting nowhere in my bid to get them back. This is why I’d be very careful about using Bitmart. This token swap will be a nightmare for lots of folk.

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I think the main reason given for introducing the burden of blockchain/ERC20 was to facilitate on/off ramps: exchanges.

We already had decent on/off ramps with a native token (running nodes and spending to store data, plus over the counter trading supported by the community), which were I think arguably more aligned with the fundamentals of the project (decentralization max and access for everyone).

I agree it would probably take longer to get the native token on exchanges, but I still don’t understand why that was so important that we have had to put large barriers in the way of adoption and move so far from “access for everyone”. For what? A dismal reward in terms of exchanges.

Exchanges won’t adopt until value and utility is certain and their profits guaranteed, or they are bribed sufficiently to overcome those hurdles.

The native token, if working (big question - but so is a network suffocated by ETH gas fees and blockchain wallets), would quickly show itself to be a disrupter that exchanges and others would be daft to ignore. So arguably a better route to get listed would have been to demonstrate something far better than what was the current state-of-the-art.

Instead of getting the native token working we’ve wasted months of development effort hobbling everything with blockchain, destroying our credibility with the FOSS community and many more with little to show for it.

No work is ongoing on the native token, and there’s been no information on the plan for moving away from ERC20 back to the original vision. No timescales, and no answer to how we overcome the barriers involved in getting people to switch (noderunners, users, partners etc).

Oh, and where are the partners now?

I don’t think “investors” are going to be satisfied with BitMart and Dex, and I don’t know why these priorities were set and allowed to derail the project. Investors invested in the fundamentals just like this community, so that should not have been pushed aside IMO.

I am excited by TGE however. I don’t understand why, but maybe it is because it feels like a milestone reached, even though I don’t believe it is a good place to have arrived at! :rofl:

Hopefully uploads will be better after the reset, but TBH the update isn’t very encouraging on that front (“The exact cause is still something of a mystery, however”).

Everyone being able to upload reliably, and without losing funds is crucial to a storage network, so for me it is very concerning to be at this point without that working. It’s not a new issue after all, but something that has never worked adequately. Hidden from most by the fact so few people are trying to upload.

The dev team continue to improve the network in lots of areas, and myself and others continue to develop apps to use the network, all hoping it will come together.

I hope very much things will start to come together and turn back towards decentralisation and access for everyone.

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Excellent update, these are very good decisions, a few days delay does not matter but better preparation for TGE and working out the details e.g. exchange of Maid and eMaid for network token, better communication with the community strengthens the planned network launch. The team is doing a great job. :point_left: :ok_hand:

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This is one of my major concerns. The fact that Bux / Jim said that they are talking with 11 additional exchanges that are open to listing ANT semi-alleviates this concern. However, I had hoped that the past year would have been enough time to ensure that at least one reliable CEX that people in the UK and US can access would list ANT at TGE.

And this is another of my major concerns. Is it that the partners that were supposed to be announced last year backed out?

A lot of things were promised last year (exchange listing(s), partnership announcements, hackathons, etc.) that did not come to be and with little to no explanation as to why. I appreciate the clearer communication during the Stages event, and I hope that level of transparency will continue. I wonder what or how things might be done differently this year to effectively deliver on securing partnerships, developers building on the network, and exchange listings.

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Solid progress and always better late than never in my book.

One step at a time @maidsafe!
Eventually, they’ll all come to us.

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Regardless of how it’s billed, ‘launch’ has been and is a process of steady progress and not a discrete event. It’ll end up being something like 1-2 years of ‘launch’.

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The big positive with native token is that it spreads the risks to different technologies. With the native token, the possible loss of data in the beginning is not such a catastrophe. There’s a lot of positives following from that.

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Do you mean that with the ERC20 token data loss wouldn’t be such a catastrophe, because tokens would be safely on a blockchain?

If Native token were used from day 1, data loss could mean Native token loss, which would be a big problem.

ERC20 seems like a far safer way to launch, and even if it only gave access to DEXs, that’s a lot better than what would be possible with native initially.

It’s also great to be able to use hardware wallets etc to store tokens, which again wouldn’t likely be possible with native for some time.

But, I do hope that the Native token is implemented as soon as possible with high priority so that the network can function & scale properly… I expect a big part of many people’s lack of ability to upload with ‘Project Dave’ is due to wallet & slow blockchain interaction issues that would be solved with native.

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Well dublin to Glasgow isn to far ,i may take u up on that :rofl:

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