SAFEBook - Social Network

Why does the network need it’s own coin ? Wasn’t it possible to use bitcoins ?

No new coin means no crowdsale…

That’s something I didn’t want to imply so I hope there are other reasons

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Continuing the discussion from SAFEBook - Social Network:

See here:

"Another key difference is the way that new AMPs are created. We are implementing a “proof of social contribution” mechanism, whereby users on Synereo who garner a reputation as publishers of attention-worthy content are rewarded AMPs for their contribution. We believe that new value will be created on the Synereo network and that it makes sense to convert the wealth that a user brings to the network into a medium of exchange which does not trace back through a series of exchanges to fiat currency and to the fiat economy.

If the only way for cryptocurrency to become valued is in its relation to fiat currencies, then all the value has to be imported from the old economy. One thing, among many, that is vital for the shift to a better economic balance is an explicit mechanism for recognizing value created and value available in our new post-bitcoin ecosystem."

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Just throwing this out there but just thought of something. What if people had to buy their likes and “comment” ability before they could use them. I mean we’re paying for “PUTS” right? So why not pay in safecoin for the ability to LIKE something. And when you like something or comment on something the money you paid to purchase the like or comment goes to the creator of the content you’re posting on. Someone posts something cool and gets a bunch of likes they are in effect getting a bunch of micropayments.

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If they put the App dev reward on PUT request, with the ability to set multiple keys and the ability to send micro fraction of safecoins, that’s exactly what you’ll be able to do. That’s a lot of “if” but that would be pretty awesome.

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I would like a completely decentralized social network. Not only would the users own their own data, the application itself would be decentralized without any owner. Just as the Internet is without owners these kinds of decentralized social networks would be without any centralized owners.

Users will be able to moderate comments on their own content. And ignore lists can be shared between users to reduce spam and other forms of abuse.

100% free speech and individual freedom.

EDIT: And also I would like the social network to in some way catalyze the social interaction between all people, not only family and friends. I don’t know if Jesus existed but here he talks about the danger of social inbreeding:

“If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that?” – Matthew 5:46-47

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I know Safebook is not meant to be the only possible name for the thing … and yes - safety is very important … but in my opinion Safebook is clearly what it should Be but not what it should be called …
When fb bought wha***app it was easy to get most of my friends to install threema, and some are using telegram … but nearly nobody uses TextSecure … and people changing to Diaspora from fb are also very rare (incudin me… since nearly non of my friends are there I don’t use my diaspora acc) …

at least with people around me it is very hard to get them thinking about something with SAFE or SECURITY in its name … they immediately step back and think “hey - are you paranoid?!”
I think it should be a simple and easy name not implying people using it are paranoid
…like talk, bla, telegraph, lightning, ocean, fog, saturn (everybody likes that planet :smiley: ), moon, fishtalk, picnic, …

@happybeing I heard about maidsafe while reading about meganet :wink: … and to be honest the name scared me off a little bit … cause I thought “oh no - another great thing but with safe in its name …” and then I became excited when reading about it!

If we do provide an infrastructure that is easy to use for collaboration and data exchange people will use it - no doubt … nobody needs a fb2.0 or something similar but if everybody is online anyway because of maidsafes data exchange (and synchronization) features it will become something way more important than fb

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http://www.synereo.com/

Isn’t this going tobe the safebook ??? Ui looks pretty neat imo

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Yes the design is very appealing indeed, but I’m pretty sure it is not maidsafe-based

so if I’m not completely wrong it is not safebook :wink: … sorry

I don’t like Synereo because it incentivises people to consume advertising. For me that’s a killer.

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I wouldn’t say advertising itself is bad … but I don’t like that I’m not the one getting paid since I have to look at it everywhere…

as example … if you could activate advertisement in maidsafe and then getting paid in safecoins for every *** ad you have to look at … i’d say thats fine … don’t think i myself would activate it … but no problem with that … people could earn free storage capacity …

Yeah, at least they should have the option to choose for ads or not…

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Oh, but they do.

Keep in mind these aren’t the ads you’re used to. It’s the same content you’d otherwise see in your stream, only promoted such that it is prioritized for you.

It’s a mechanism existing not to incentivize consumption of ads, but rather to allow the investment of units of monetary value into the greater spreading of any message. To give a place to this force that exists in our culture, denying which would be burying your head in the sand, but in a transparent, controllable, and fair way.

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very well … so … why should i join your social network …? for me it would be an additional place to check for news … i’m already flooded with news and all my contacts happen to not be at your pretty designed network …?

i pretty much don’t care about ads or not … but i don’t see what benefit i would get out of that … rather than having found a good looking website …

sorry maybe i was a little bit too plain-spoken - i really meant it as honest questions because i don’t get it

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It’s a mechanism existing not to incentivize consumption of ads, but rather to allow the investment of units of monetary value into the greater spreading of any message.

I don’t see how you can say this, when users are rewarded with currency / provided with free services, for consuming them.

It’s just another variation on the “turn users into products and sell their attention”, of other ad sponsored services.

I don’t like that, and I don’t like ads, so I will not use Synereo.

Ads are a powerful centralisation force, because you allow them to be bought, and this is the fundamental problem with all ad related services.

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Shall I send you a TSU invite? Where there is minimal advertising and you DO get paid for your activity?

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thank you for the offer @Blindsite2k but to be honest i’m not really interested in joining any new network … (i watched a short video to know what you were talking about ; ) … i don’t like my private data flying around on any server … i log into my fb acc once or twice a week and in g+ once … never … and like with synereo i don’t see why … only to be paid for watching ads doesn’t really convince me :wink: … plus i would have to generate data for being paid … so the more I offer TSU the more I will be paid … its a nasty trick to make people selling more of their private data … brilliant business concept indeed but again TSU is the winner in this game …

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I have a good name and also want to help develop this network. Please get in touch if interested.

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Safe book is not a good name if that’s what you’re thinking of calling it… but otherwise love the idea dude. All the best with it sincerely.

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