SAFE Network Dev Update - September 5, 2019

Someone is still after cheap coin. Its too obvious now that some comments are for the purpose of affecting people’s perceptions of the team and/or project.

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Whilst we’re being honest I’m also impressed by the ability of that account to do what it does on all sections of the Clock.

Also impressive is the ability to improve its standard of grammar from post to post (specifically depending on who is responding).

Does this all suggest a trader with a never ending supply of Red Bull? Who knows :alien:

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The trading topic is quite revealing

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Is that with one Dev working full time or 10 Devs

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seems like with all, they are split to different projects so this estimate is still 3-4 months

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Hell it’s about time. Congrats @oetyng. I was wondering when they would bring you on board.

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Thank you @Blindsite2k, I’m glad to hear that :slight_smile:

I’ll give some background.

MaidSafe put out an ad recently for a senior software engineer, and the particulars of that role was especially fit to my profile. I’ve wanted to work at MaidSafe for a long time but the job ads I’ve seen so far weren’t that good of a match.

I recently finished a project and had gone on parental leave so I wasn’t planning to start a new one for quite some time still, but since this ad came out I though, hell let’s go!

But since I spent so much time at the previous project (double full time when accounting for no vacations, working weekends and nights), I really wanted to be home with my family for a while. So for that reason I’m not doing full time at MaidSafe now.

But besides being with my family I still have my personal projects related to SAFENetwork and the Meetups are happening as well.

I’m about to book the date for the first one there, I’ve just had to wait for a few stars to align and such :wink:

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3-4 months is Christmas. What a great Christmas present. PS. I think it will be sooner

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did you forget the maidsafe funds for operation is coming to an end? If that is a great christmas present also for you then i have no words. even if the funds are sufficient there is still node aging and testnet which will surely take many months, so there you have it. very questionable if fleming will be released. I hope i am wrong though…

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And that is the old news. There has been updates to that as you have commented on elsewhere.

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What is the new news then? never heard any official statement on this, I guess we have to wait for few months and the statement confirming run out funds will be announced like no one expected it.

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There was a whole topic to it.
One of the official statements was that David guaranteed that there would be fair warning of any running out of funds. Yes at least months. But funding is fine going into the new year.

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Yep. Bitcoin price is higher over the past few months than when Nick Lambert predicted adequate funds to May 2020 and salary savings from staff leaving. No issues with funds or raising funds. Merry Christmas one and all

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But also there was word that other sources of funding were and are being secured.

The management has handled the funding adequately since inception and to inject fear into the mix by one person is not helpful for the project at all. If there were questions then rather than making fud claims despite information publicly available to the contrary, the person could ask a polite question in the topic that dealt with it a few months back. But traders will do as traders do.

EDIT: to be clear, personally I welcome people to ask difficult questions and probe. But in saying that I find asking in the form of FUD is nasty and manipulative. Many here have asked difficult questions in a polite way and received many responses that reveal quite a lot. So please ask politely and you might be surprised by the responses from the team and the community.

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This sounds like a lot of overhead development to me and actually is the only thing I don’t fully understand in the whole launch strategy until Fleming. While I fully support the idea of establishing the API (including TestSafeCoin etc.) first in order to enable devs to play around with it (Vault Phase 1) I still wonder if it’s necessary to build this “Vault-Network” thing before actually integrating the routing part.

Is the work needed in order to integrate routing that big, that such an “excourse” is reasonable (at least in a relative perspective)? If so, then it would kind of make sense, otherwise I would push for finishing the last routing parts first instead of adding complexity to the client libs & vaults (which will be then obsolote at a later point).

Btw, yes I’ve read the medium post which slightly goes into explaining this concern but just states that the focus is on building the foundation first. However in my opinion this foundation is actually already reached whith Phase 1 Vaults and might get more robust going forward with a direct focus on the Routing integration.

But that’s just my feeling from an outside perspective. Would love to hear your thoughts on this.

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@Mindphreaker,

I would not see it as an ‘excourse’ per se, because different folk work on different parts of the network. No one from the Routing team is being distracted building the new Vaults, integrating it with quic-p2p and Routing itself, etc., it’s handled by the Vault team. And this work needs to be done with or without Routing.

Not necessarily. I would even say that it’s actually the opposite. :slight_smile: Vaults and SCL provide a foundation for the users of the network. More advanced Routing will add more layers of the network structure to that, making it a single section first, multiple sections next, and a full network eventually.

And that’s the plan for Phase 2!

The part of dev update you quoted is about making sure the Clients are ready for the multi-section network which we’ll need to do eventually, but it doesn’t necessarily mean this will be a part of the Phase 2 Clients/Vaults.

Hope this helps!

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Thanks @nbaksalyar for this explaination! It now makes much more sense to me. :slight_smile: Keep up the great work!

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Interesting to note that despite the nay-sayers claims of impending doom and disaster with the departure of some devs, progress seems faster than ever before…
Could it be a smaller, leaner team is more effective?
I’m sure @anon94252342 will be on to prove I’m wrong though…

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We need to provide him our medial records and daily pulse rates and prove in advance none of us can get ill. But then climate change could strike, nuclear war or asteroid strike, OMG the project might fail, we cannot guarantee against any of those things :wink:

Like running for the finish line is a race getting stopped every few steps by some gambler who has bet on us, asking why we are not finished yet and can we be certain we will. At least he is not alone, there are a few like that, thankfully not many in this community.

We will run for that finish line and guarantee nothing in advance but celebrate everything in hindsight :wink: So says the weekly dev updates :smiley: :smiley:

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Moan starsmick moan :laughing: ,

No but really my dude, look. There is absolutely nothing beneficial about being constantly negative and poking on them. Think about it from a rational perspective. You do not have the technical expertise or knowledge to build this product. You purchased into this project as a token holder and have a vested interest in its success. No amount of negativity is going to make this project a success and all you are doing is upsetting folk. Best to just wait and see what they can produce, they are working very hard and giving it their best. If they succeed its great for them and all of us MAID hodlers. If they don’t succeed well we all took a risk by buying into the concept and that is part of life. You won’t bat 100% success at everything you buy into. A matter of fact unproven emerging tech such as this is probably one of the riskiest assets you can become a stake holder in. If the idea of failure makes you nervous then just buy the SP 500 and take those 7% average yearly returns for life my dude.

I on the other hand will partake in the community here and stay positive either to the finish line or otherwise, as that is all us as community members can do to support them and lift them up. Engage in technical debates and implementation details,download their releases and do some QA of the new software for bugs. Suggest feature improvements.

Success or failure, don’t you at least want to be remembered for trying to help this thing succeed rather than be a menace to the forum?

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