Questions about Farming and Safecoin

[dirvine]

Hope this helps safecoin will be large part of next sprint, right now we are building storage messaging and safecoin farming so different mindset at this mental pace. forgive any errors and grammar. I am 100% sure the network will launch before watermarking so we do not need to rush those issues (I fear an error if we did). Watermarking is very interesting and could revolutionise media industry. Lets fix data first though

@anon40790172

When I upload (PUT) a private file to SAFEnet I need to pay some Safecoin, who decides how many SAFEcoin I have to pay? Is that hard coded?

Initially 1 safecoin, the network will reduce this over time and let you know when your account is low. You will lose this safecoin immediately to the recycle area and the account managers keep a note of the balance (micro transactions).

@anon40790172

When I upload (PUT) a public file to SAFEnet, do I have to pay Safecoins?

Yes at a rate of 25% of private data.

@anon40790172

When I share a private file with 200 friends, and they all open it. Can I make some Safecoin on that as a builder? Can I attach my wallet-address to earn 10% of the Farming?

Private shares are not on current roadmap. So will be a few weeks out for sure. The network can handle branching and forking of data writes, it’s an area we are hoping to measure more when the net is live. The main issue is we can do this but apps cannot handle conflicts. Easy way is dropbox style, but it’s messy, we can do better.

@anon40790172

When I create my own videoclip (Let’s say I’m U2) and I share it on SAFEnet, can I attach my own address and make 10% of the Farmed-coins as a builder?

Not yet, this is part of the artist rewards we have discussed. Watermarking is the key here.

@anon40790172

Does my videoclip has to be “private” to make any Safecoin? Or can it make Safecoin when it’s public as well?

n/a (At the moment)

@anon40790172

When a youtube-like App uses my videoclip (again, I’m U2) do they make any Safecoin on it? Or is it my file and do only I and the Farmer make Safecoin on it?

App will make 10% of any successful farming attempt.

@anon40790172

When I create a website on SAFEnet with 2000 pictures of my cat. Can I attach my address to each of these pictures and earn Safecoin?

You will be able to but again it’s reward the artists and we have not got a final mechanism yet.

@anon40790172

When 25 other websites use my pictures on their websites, do they earn any Safecoin on it? Or are these files attached to my wallet (assume they don’t change the files) and do I still earn Safecoin while others use it?

They would be watermarked to you, we have not implemented watermarking yet though.

@anon40790172

When I create an App as an App-builder (let’s say my program is 2,3mb. in size). Do I make 10% of the farming for all these 2,3mb when it’s requested by people (ignore cache for now).

No, only when they use your app. (neat idea though also watermark the binaries, do not see why not)

@anon40790172

Let’s say my App allows people to share their video with others. Do I earn anything from these videos? Or only from the 2,3mb. of my App?

The data would be watermarked not your app. If other apps access the data they get dev reward.

@anon40790172

When I have stored 300 Gig. And I payed to PUT it to the network, do I get anything back when I delete 100 Gig. (assume the files are not shared by others)?

No these files are there forever. We do not delete at the moment. The network does not count who is using data or what data, so cannot tell it’s unique. Watermarked private data may be different and certainly an option.

@anon40790172

Let’s say that I create my own private App with 200 private videos on it. And I attach my wallet-address as a builder. Now I share it with 100 of my friends, and we all open these different videos files every couple of days. Can I earn Safecoin with my friends? Have we “hacked’ the system in a way that we payed once to PUT a file but made more on opening it using the 10% of Farming?

If the videos are popular enough the cache, if not you may stand a chance, but I doubt it. We need a view of an xor network to explain the distance between these chunks and farming rewards. So maybe if you put up millions and millions of copies and cycle slowly downloading them all continually you would get some safecoin from a dev perspective (for the app), but you probably clock your node from farming which would have earned 90% more.

@anon40790172

When I upload the same file as a builder, and someone else was 5 mins. in front of me doing the same thing, is he the only one who can make money on it?

As a builder you should really only be concerned about your app.