No I’m saying quite the opposite.
If you had some coins in your wallet, and you returned some number of years later to find them gone, would you feel that you’d been soverign over your finances then?
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No … of course not. Which is why I shouldn’t trust my sovereignty to a network that says permanent data isn’t more risky than a temp data network.
A temp data network can adapt more readily to market changes, so it’s more credible to me that data I store on a temp data network will be there for the duration I expect it to be than to trust in indefinite data - where I think it would only make sense to have another backup … which then leads me to think why do I need to pay for 
storage at all? Where is the value prop? There are some value props, but permanent data isn’t one of them, when I can just pay market price for temp data and renew as needed and feel confident that the data network isn’t going to implode due to people shorting the market or simply lower demand in the future for – say for example when a competitor (fork) arrives that is better or when most of the demand for is soaked up and then it flatlines leaving a lot of data that must be maintained but little new income for nodes.
The economics here demonstrates a large risk for data uploaders and the only rational solution that I can see (maybe there is another and I’m open to hearing it) is for us to provide temp data protocols.
with launch tomorrow we’ll switch over to Arbitrum main net - right? 
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No we’ll be on Sepolia until TGE at the end of Jan
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oooooooooh - and I thought I won’t need test eth - okay … I guess I’ll get some of them then as soon as we get the API 
You can claim 0.1 per 72 hours, if I were you I would have already claimed several times, they will give rewards for uploading…
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you’re using the alchemy faucet thingy? … when I needed to enter my phone number I stopped filling it out further …
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Well, yes, they call to dictate a code to you. I don’t see anything worrisome about that.
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Me too. So I got some Eth and sent over £20 worth - which cost £30 in fees 
@Dimitar you surprise me!
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haha - yeah … that’s why I didn’t do any upload testing yet - I thought I might as well do it a week later on main net xD …
@aatonnomicc any guidance on how much Eth you’re using to cover upload fees?
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Well I think we have a completely different crypto game because it costs me exactly 0 to send eth to Arbitrum, I even got about 25 euro worth of eth for free. I just logged into Coinbase, went through one of their free tutorials and sent the money to Arbitrum:
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Not many balked at Discord either.
Anonymity is the point of the project yet the bulk of folk here drop it regardless.
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Many from a small part of humanity… Most people are ok with using centralized services, I personally feel freer when I don’t try to be anonymous. The idea for me is to create a world where everything is anonymous by default, not to hide in a non-anonymous world…
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from what I see on the block explorer for a 4 chunk upload it’s like 0.00002 … so one drip from the faucet with 0.1 ETH is like 5000 ANT TXs …
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There are numerous places to get test tokens, the one I am about to use once my bridging completes only want a email. I have a junk email address for those purposes so it doesn’t bother me.
Another wanted nothing but an wallet address with an active history, options exist.
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We should make a list of different ones.
Any change of letting everyone in on that one?
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I have not fully completed it yet they want 0.001 eth on arb one and a email so far. so until my bridge completes in 5 minutes I am not 100% that they won’t ask for more. Will link shortly if it goes well.
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Can I just use the eth I have in my wallet?