See my above post. If SAFE supports selecting between fungibility and non-fungibility, transferability and non-transferability, and the infrastructure exists to interface tokens with SAFE itself, then all use cases are possible. I strongly think we should support that in order to attract all end uses and avoid any discussion of ‘this use case isn’t possible on SAFE’.
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Unlike chickens (I noticed the Facebook AI guy also relieved his stress/guilt by keeping chickens) humans are not very logical and social conventions almost always win over maths. We need to take account of that.
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Absolutely. And everybody should and will be allowed to create whatever tokens they like. But I personally need to understand the math if I’m to invest in or buy anything. That’s just the way I am.
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(I wonder how people on this forum see me. I am very much human myself. And I’ve never been diagnosed as a psychopath or sociopath or the like. Maybe we should have a thread called “Who/what is Sascha really?” 
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EDIT: I created a poll.
https://forum.autonomi.community/t/polls-r-us-some-charachters/34015/2
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I am very much the same and I like the idea of keeping chickens on an island. I reckon you’ve got it made!
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Yes. But the branding and theming of it adds value by onboarding users to safe while unleashing people’s creativity.
Thanks for the debate/brainstorm everyone. I now have three flavors of salt planned to support some project ideas. We should revisit this and brainstorm what a core api added to the network would look like.
Example: salt in core api vs salt in app layer.
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I personally want to see
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Algorithmically adjusted stable coin - that could also be
- A token rewarded to a SafeID’s wallet that is directly tied to a piece of data and paid out upon consumption
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A redeemable token also rewarded to a SafeID’s wallet but that is specifically for referencing data and only rewarded upon consumption (to incentivize sharing).
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Some generic token standard w/ low tx fee
Maybe you can tell that the last two are loosely inspired ideas of Pay the Producer (PtP) for the app level but could be handy on the core level but I also don’t like the idea of the core level having algorithmically adjusted stable coin because then I think perhaps Safe Network Tokens could fall by the way side a bit. SN will obviously always have its utility and could still be accepted as payment etc but I do think salts will be extremely helpful in providing specific use cases where either it wouldn’t be desired in core or wouldn’t be easy to integrate SN.
Clikes were needed to incentives funding.
Pdc will be exchanged for clikes once decorum is live.
So investors pre bought clikes essentially.
Clikes will not be available unless you pre bought or mine them in some way.
The difficulty to mine / produce them was to be linked to btc difficulty, at least at first, so it will be alot harder to produce them after all this time, giving the investors an advantage.
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If you make a game, you can make entries in a database for in-game currency. Then gamers will find an exploit and gold dupe. Backing in-game currencies with actual currency mechanisms can solve dupe problems. There’re then other benefits also, such as a group of games that all accept the same in-game currency, easy sharing between friends, and whatever else people can imagine.
Why not just have everything use SNT then? If you are a poor indie game dev, how can you launch the game, or scale it if it becomes popular quickly, if the in-game currency is pegged to something with real-world value?
IMHO the benefit of SNT infrastructure being abstracted and offered as an API to the application layer is it fuels imagination with tech that does nothing but add value all around.
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If we can have new tokens without too much fuss codewise, then it would be a large win.
I think of them as a marketing tool, but end users might think of them like a coupon.
Why marketing? A company selling goods/services, doesn’t want to hand out SaNT’s as they won’t necesarily come back to their ecosystem. Their own token can be traded around, but it’s redeemable value ultimately comes from their own ecosystem … the trading of the token increases awareness of their product and service … if all they did was give out SaNT’s, while that might make customers happy, it’s not going to spread the word of their product/service very far.
This is also great for SN growth - if companies have another tool they can leverage for use on SN, then they will be more inclined to build on SN.
Of course on SN, with it’s privacy and security, tokens may be able to function like a stock once we have “compute” on SN and smart contracts may allow token-holders to own an app and gain some profits … that’s all a lot more iffy though.
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Only two things stop me keeping chickens on an island
- There are foxes on this island
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I cannot afford an alternative island
but I have always fancied this one
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