Can I suggest that on the instructions where you will link the form you get people to first check the correct blockchain. Some do not realise that the two use different explorer and contract, well like me many are very new to this and its quite a cloudy understanding.
So get them to plug in the eth address into the link for arbitrum-one network. EG
https://arbiscan.io/token/0xa78d8321B20c4Ef90eCd72f2588AA985A4BDb684?a=<replace this text with you address and remove angle brackets>
I may have made a mistake, but I checked several times to make sure that everything was correct before I burned the Maid.
I have been in the oripto world for many years and I know that a mistake can be irreparable so I take these processes very seriously.
I have looked at the Omni blockchain and there are very few of us who have burned Maid. The fact that at least three of us have had problems indicates that, perhaps, the problems are more on the Autonomi side.
In my case I could verify and resend all the transaction data, if that fixes this problem, thatās fine with me.
I wouldnāt worry. These guys know what theyāre doing.
These bloody ethereum networks are so confusingā¦can someone please explain whether you need ARB ETH to move ANT from a metamask wallet to another? Or can you use mainet ETH to pay for the fees?
Edit; also, am I right thinking that anything we have on sepolia in now useless and I can remove that from metamask (just adds confusion)
As long as you didnāt provide a valid but incorrect ETH/ARB destination address or lose control of the wallet you sent the burned MAID from everything should be fixable if thereās a problem. I expect there could be transactions that for whatever reason couldnāt be completed and because this is an anonymous process you may have to submit again via the new form mentioned. This is very stressful, but know you can use the MAID send address to prove the burn and sign a new message if need be to prove ownership and confirm the receive address. If the ETH receive address was incomplete/invalid or inconsistent with the signature you should be able to just try again as no ANT would have been lost as none would have been sent.
Yes sepolia is history and worth nothing.
You need eth on arbitrum to be able to pay for gas fees on arbitrum. But you can bridge main net eth to the arbitrum network forth and back ( https://bridge.arbitrum.io/ ) or the exchange you are using may offer to withdraw your bought Ethereum on the arbitrum network (because itās really the same token just living on a different networkā¦)
There is no ANT transaction with the exact amount of Maid I have burned. Further proof that these ANTs were never sent.
Why, my mistake or Autonomiās, is what I donāt know.
When you say exact. Is it like attos the difference or much more. There is a bit of non-exactness due to the functionality. Like 0.00000000000000nnnnnnnnn difference - 10 tokens could end up a tiny amount more or less.
Its beyond me why blockchain functionality would do this but that is what i was told. The amount is insignificant in practical terms
Neither exact nor close. It is not a transaction of a few Maid.
I burned mine around 4am on the Friday burn date and received my ant the next burn event on Tuesday at 5:30am. I was wondering where mine were also.
The final deadline is February 3rd, 2028.
@JimCollinson Please explain:
For all the complaining that the cryptocurrency industry does about āfiatā money, at least when holding a dollar bill I do not have to worry that it might expire and be worthless in a few years. (some fiat currencies that is the case, but I donāt hold those or wish to)
edit: I will illustrate with an example.
Letās say I get hit by a bus tomorrow. In 10 years safe-network (or name dujour) has become huge and tokens have increased in value substantially. My child, now a young adult, is going through my old files and discovers I held some maid tokens on the bitcoin/omni network. Since both bitcoin and maid still exist, it would certainly be my wish that my child could redeem those coins and improve their situation. It is certainly technically possible since the proof is stored in the bitcoin blockchain.
So then: what valid/moral reason can MaidSafe/Autonomi have to not honor those coins?
(a thousand other examples exist. the most common simply being that not everyone reads this forum. many investors buy and tune out for years.)
I think we need to put an end to this kind of meaningless criticism. The team did not intentionally try to harm anyone, and we provided a three-year period along with clear announcements. Yet, is demanding a detailed explanation for every decision because it seems unreasonable? Is it really such an irrational action that it requires further clarification? To me, wasting the teamās time with these kinds of questions seems even more unreasonable.
Iām interested to know this too.
This seems accusational in tone, and in my view hints at a misunderstanding of what MAID / eMAID is.
eMAID / MAID has always been a temporary placeholder token that would be exchangeable for Safecoin/ANT when available.
If someone buys and holds an explicitly temporary token (placeholder = pointless once real deal is available), they should expect that when itās fulfilled its role, it may be expired.
Any expectation that a temporary token should last forever seems misplaced in my view, and it should certainly not be assumed the exchange window was going to be indefinite.
3 years seems reasonable to me.
But, it would still be good to hear the reasoning for the 3 year window; I expect itās because itās a partially manual process and the cost / effort to keep it open indefinitely is unlikely to be worth it.
Itāll also be good to have final āclosureā on the actual total supply of ANT token 3 years after itās launch.
ANT is not a placeholder token like MAID/eMAID, but a utility token used for resources on the network that is intended to last.
I think it is reasonable to assume these will never expire, and will always be acceptable. Even if the token standard changes, it should be exchangeable with any updated ANT.
As for planning for how tokens are dealt with if something happens to a holder, that is up to all of us to deal with responsibly. Make sure you have a will / plans in place for that kind of thing.
This is it 
exactly.
Itās an ongoing manual process, with costs and staffing required.
And also, having a deadline prompts people into action so we can move to the new token, rather than it just being open ended. And it gives some certainty and clarity on both sides of the conversion process.
We felt 3 years was a reasonable timeframe for people to get organised and convert, and also not unreasonable for the Foundation to commit to staff for.
Will the native currency be called ANT or is the native currency an aspiration which is not currently being worked on?
I think that may be a major debate. It may well be there are various tech/regulatory reasons why it cannot be ANT. But we have 3 years to worry about it.
This was a fear a couple of months back, personally I feel that the native currency is a LOT more than simply an aspiration now. The ERC-20 token is convenient right now but its limitations vs a native currency are obvious.
which is not being worked on RIGHT NOW. There are only 24 hours in the day and a limited no of devs with the relevant knowledge and skills to bring forward this currency.
I will start getting uppity about it if I dont hear of work starting in earnest in say 6-9 months. There is an awful lot of work in front of the team even without the native token and we need a resilient network, well tested and hopefully well used first to justify the effort to bring that token to fruition.
The network is not ready for the token and the world is not quite ready for the network yet.
It should be remembered that a lot of the work on the native token has already been completed IIUC. @dirvine ??
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No news yet. I will make a announcement here and discord when the form goes out.
i lost a few test omni maid trying to convert from trezor suite @JimCollinson @rusty.spork any word on signing from trezor suite being accepted ??
@rusty.spork , when it would be the solution for this problem. I burn my tokens maid on February 6. The same day I sent the form to receive my ANT tokens, and I still donāt have them.
I think it has been too long and I donāt understand so much delay.
Some news about it?
Thanks