MaidSafe rebuilding secure decentralised internet with BnkToTheFuture equity fundraising

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Spent many years entrenched in deposit bonuses and incentives and spent my whole life surrounded by gamblers, speculators and people with money.

If Maidsafe do try another crowdfund of some kind then I’d really like to get my 2 safecoins worth in earlier, as would many others I’m sure.

Sometimes it takes a greedy, hopeful punter to really understand the psychology that drives his breed and behaviour. Gut feelings are everything (esp for lazy, arrogant people with money), but they don’t really come from our guts, we draw them out of the context and call them ‘feelings’, then we let confirmation bias run riot over our reason. If everyone else is falling over themselves to buy then your gut says BUY! :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes: If no one else steps forward you start getting a bad feeling about it.

HYPE, FUD and FOMO. They sound simple and inane, but really, they are the fundamentals that underpin the $12bn+ floating around crypto these days. Practical use is still very small by comparison to speculation. Maybe safecoin will change that… I’m betting it will.

There was no hype and no fomo in this pitch… now there is a little bit of fomo for 26th and a bit more money has started to come in. There has been much FUD recently around maidsafe too, that hasn’t helped.

HYPE is not interviews and articles, hype is news and developments, partnerships and technical progress that excites people.

None of this should matter. Why should David and even Nick really care about this stuff? It doesn’t really matter compared to the tech and it’s implications; or serious, grown-up marketing stuff like doing the legwork to acquire partnerships and create an ecosystem. FUD couldn’t kill a live safenet, nor would HYPE or FOMO be needed to set it on its way. Safenetwork will be and is bigger than the speculative world of crypto. It’s such a powerful idea, it just needs to get built asap, the rest will take care of itself because enthusiasm for it IS infectious.

The only reason any of this matters is if maidsafe need to play to the crowd one last time to avoid having to dance a jig for the big boys.

If you do decide to go that way again at some point in the near future then please clue in a panel from the community to give you some feedback on how you’ve set it up… there’s plenty of us here who want to help and we could have made a big difference here imo.

Anyway, it’s not over yet… if one or two big boys drop in they could still create the confidence required to hit £2M+! 17 days is a long time. It’ll probably fly as soon as/if it hits £1M.

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This project needs some personality. Marketing strategies need to be reviewed.

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HYPE is not interviews and articles, hype is news and developments, partnerships and technical progress that excites people.

I agree on this some partnerships will be great, technical progress i think it would be great to see vaults really connected to the mainnet, im around crypto for a long time and the amount of times i heared maidsafe is vaporware is insane, that was also one of the reasons why i joined so late and i actually was surprised how well everything is and felt stupid to listen to those people. When people will run there own vaults on the mainnet (thats still testnet ofc) and its not run on the maidsafe network that would be great.

Jabba what do you think about the equity compared to the coins, long term and short term?

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I’ve gone for both for several reasons. Not least because I know what I’m like and I sold all my Eth way too soon ;). I feel like tying a chunk of investment onto maidsafe is sensible. Liquidity isn’t always your friend. It is still possible maidsafe makes it big and safecoin doesn’t. I’d feel sick to be on the wrong platform at the right station. I like to cover my bases.

I sold a few maids when they announced a few weeks ago. I have now added to my btc investment on BttF because I reckon maid will drop a bit more if it does fail, so when/if I get my btc refund from BttF I’ll be able to buy back more.

Really, I’m like you bob and bullish long, so nice to have short and long term covered. I don’t want to miss out on any of it :wink:

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You are one sneaky little tactician! I’m impressed! :smile:

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Unclear how much advertising there has been.

I couldn’t see a thread on bitcointalk for example… so just added the abc at SAFE Network - Incentives for bnktothefuture equity fundraising and SAFE Network Alpha Release! - JavaScript and AJAX forum at WebmasterWorld - WebmasterWorld

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I doubt that atm when its on 14k, maybe if you sold higher lets say around 17k, but i think many sold maidsafe coins to invest in the Equity as soon as they get a refund incase they dont reach the minimum. Then hey probably will stack up some extra coins again. Thats what i would do atleast.

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The response from deadbirdzz at bitcointalk. deadbirdzz should be the target, however its not. The target here are intellects. Peeps are not motivated to join this community for this reason.
Go the holy than thou no hype route and it may take another ten years, to come second.

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Not quite… deadbirdzz is just a dull troll. bitcointalk has become home to pump and dump alt coin wizards - they who know how to copy and paste their own coin and follow through with chatter.

You’re right up to a point that those who can invest and that not just trolling, are attracted to hype. Though I wonder also serious investors will want to cut through that … but hype is the first hook… or perhaps it’s simply being aware of an opportunity to consider it.

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You might be right, I did sell around 16.5-17k though… if it fails I’d hope to buy back in around 12-13k, but you may be spot on and it might just bounce straight up to 15-16k again with our buy backs. Either way I’d hope to be ahead of the pack a little.

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In case it’s not obvious… and I hadn’t seen it.

bnktothefuture have a Bitcoin accepted here badge.

Just create an account at https://bnktothefuture.com and look to the investor page… you’ll see then:

[quote]How do I back / invest in a pitch using Bitcoins?

You are able to back / invest in this pitch using the online digital currency Bitcoin and other alternative coins. In order to back / invest you will need to own Bitcoins or Altcoins already. If you do not own them yet then don’t worry, you can choose to back / invest using all major currencies instead.

If you back a pitch for a reward, then we will convert your Bitcoins into the currency the pitch is raising finance in immediately, and pay the pitch owner once the pitch has expired.

However, if you decide to invest in a pitch using Bitcoins or an alternative coin we will hold your coins safely and securely in cold storage in a segregated client wallet, separate from any BnkToTheFuture.com company wallets. This is completely free of any transaction fee.

If the pitch reaches at least its minimum funding goal then we will transfer the coins to the pitch owner and proceed with completing your investment. The number of shares you receive is calculated through the exchange rate at the time you make your investment and will be confirmed for you at point of investment.

If the pitch does NOT reach at least its minimum funding goal then we will update your balance on your BnkToTheFuture.com account, where the exact number of coins you pledged will be available for you to re-invest or withdraw to your own wallet at any time. Before withdrawing, you will need to complete a one time only anti money laundering identity check if you have not done so already.

Until then your coins will be stored safely and securely in cold storage. [/quote]

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so why feed him? not good strategy giving a troll more space on the stage.

So its a good place for Maidsafe?

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Replies with additional content help bump the thread.

Can’t do any harm… it’s big enough a forum that there will be interest from those with BTC to invest and perhaps a few big fish. The risk is a low hit rate… and sceptical defaults but there’s depth here and elsewhere that allow those with real interest in investment to find more.

It matters not who invests… it’s for everyone. Getting the word out is the first step in any investor being aware of the opportunity. I expect there are better places to pitch to but I’m no expert on where those might be… so doing what I can.

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Your reply “That is about as ignorant a statement as could be made.” is feeding a troll, and just as ignorant. You’re out there as an ambassador for Maidsafe at a crucial time. Suggesting he should look deeper is a better way of “bumping” a thread. Those are kids on there

… use your talents to get this in front of some adults on mainstream media.

When you characterize the forum as [quote=“davidpbrown, post:429, topic:11039”]
bitcointalk has become home to pump and dump alt coin wizards
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how can you say it “cant do harm” You have just characterized Maidsafe as a Pump and Dump altcoin. Think about what your doing out their dude.

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One way they might get around the legal barriers is to define some of the applications they intend on developing within maidsafe and sell a token that represents a special use case for that specific app within the safenetwork.

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You should look deeper. My reply was on point, his response was ignorant. Pandering to trolls doesn’t stop them.

I’m not going to argue … if you have a better approach to raising awareness, let’s see it.

and saying shit doesn’t make it true.

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He’s doing a great job out there. I’m gonna chime in, didn’t know it existed. Thanks davidpbrown!

We now have a little info page in chinese thanks to someone else.

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Please keep on-topic. I deleted 5 replies which got off and where about personal issues. This topic is about Maidsafe and it’s funding through BTTF.

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:stuck_out_tongue:

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Some people told here that they valuation of MaidSafe at almost 40 million euro is too high. I agree with them. Of course right now the company does not have that value. I was also surprised by that evaluation. But the main reason, I want to invest into it, even at this price is, that it is one time oportunity.There are many companies I would like to invest into, but they simply do not sell shares. So even, If you know, some company will skyrocket, there is no way how to earn money on it, if there are no shares for sale. Maidsafe coin will probably have higher revenue shorterm, but I can buy maidsafe coin anytime I want. I can pay for it using my future income. But company stocks are for sale only now. And if coin skyrockets, than company has to skyrocket too. Those patents and licences can be very valuable. Just remember, how Microsoft bought Motorola, and paid over $ billion for bancrupted company, just because of patents portfolio.

Edit: Microsoft did not purchase Motorola. I checked it again. Google purchased Motorola for $12.5 billion and sold it for $2.91, keeping all patents. So Google paid almost $10 billions for Motorola pattents. Microsoft bought Nokia for $7.2 billion, mostly because of patents. Right now Microsoft earns $5-$15 for every android phone sold, thanks to licence fees based on Nokia patents.

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