About the only thing that’d limit most people is the SMS, but then there are many people who simply do not have phones (children, older people, many others)
But the rest would allow the ones you are trying to limit to still have 1000’s of NRID
And the ones you are not trying to limit will be leaving traces of their identity with some authority in charge of this. And one of the fundamental goals of the network is to have the level of entry extremely low. And to have no system of prevention for running nodes. This is like a red flag to many and barrier to entry for many others.
You are assuming that rich people could avoid limitation. Maybe. Maybe not. Lets be ingenious ! Is your opinion technical or ideological ?
If you are interested in running a node, you probably already have a computer and a phone. Those who havent, either they are doing very well without our globally catastrophic capitalist industrial technology, or they have priorities way more important than having access to run an autonomi node
No, I am implying the ones you think need to be limited, the ones running a too many nodes. Too many for any one person to be allowed to run, in your opinion.
Why? How many kids do not have phones, should we exclude this class of people? Maybe where you come from every person who has a laptop, computer, mobile device also has a phone. What of the kids given a school laptop to use because they are too poor to have one.
You have made many assumptions and willing to have gatekeeping in order to limit some people you declare as not being allowed to run (so many) nodes.
It is the people who can run so many nodes that can also bypass all your gatekeeping and get 1000’s of your IDs and run all the nodes they want just the same. So what do you achieve with all the complexity, gatekeeping and controls? I suggest nothing other than raise the barrier to entry and reduce the number of legit nodes while increasing the power of those you want to limit.
In the USA, have a guess when the most alcohol per adult was consumed, yes during the period they made it illegal. Also applies to other things outlawed like drugs and so on. The point is that these gatekeeping methods only stop the ones willing to be stopped.
Yes, and quite easily, a few years ago I had a telecom license in Bulgaria and a numbering plan with 5000 numbers cost 0.125 eurocents per number per year, I’m sure there are cheaper ones around the world…
I’m not saying that there won’t be such attempts in one of the hundreds of copies of Autonomi once it’s proven as a technology. I’m just saying that the likelihood of them failing is huge.
Are you serious ? Kids should have access to a decent education, to a good community, to healthy food and water, to a decent psychotherapy, to a decent hospital, to green areas, to nature. How many kids care about running an autonomi node ? to do what ? to earn almost nothing cause all the big players get most of the rewards ?
Firstly I did not say or imply kids should have have those things, how dare you claim I said they should not.
And reality, kids include teens, and yes they can. 60 years ago as a kid I very much would have been into that. Yea, it was unusual for kids to be in computers back then, programming on main frames etc. BUT today its the norm for kids to be into computers starting at like 3 to 6 years old. Programming kits for 5 year olds.
Anyhow with that claim you made I doubt I will be answering you again with that.
Hmmm a bit short on detail but possibly worthy of further poking
But first, I’d advise a search of the forum archives for “Proof of Unique Human” a thread that ran fro many years and threw up many interesting ideas. AFAIR it never quite came to any definitive conclusions.
I should read it again myself, as should everybody interested in this - which should be EVERYBODY btw
I tried out Idena for a while for some other project I was involved in that required it for access.
For me it just wasn’t practical to participate in all the ceremonies. If you’re busy at the wrong time, you’re out.
Maybe it’s improved over the years, but it isn’t simple / flexible enough for casual users to participate in, but may be ok for die-hards who can give it sufficient priority irrespective of their time zone etc.
I don’t believe in ai resistent Tests. If it would be valuable enough to have a certain amount of voting power it would become another form of proof of work…
If the average person can do it on a pc the right machine will be able to do it too…at least with a high probability…
Proof of human. LOL - what are we trying to do here, identify everyone?
Why do we want to limit nodes per account?
How many people don’t want to run accounts? Someone who wants to run many times more nodes can recruit them and then get their allocation.
Do we have to make the person pull out their “unique human” card every time they want to run a node?
Why are we trying to stop someone with the capability to run 1000 nodes on each of their business’ servers. At least one person in the forum has a ton of servers, at least one in each of their offices.
Just like in the unique human, those who want to get around it will and can. Biometrics so far have proven to be not perfect, can be fooled, duplicated etc. And identical twins are excluded from individual accounts. Otherwise everyone presents themselves as one of the two or 3 identical “twins”
And per account, we can have 1000 accounts and run one node each account.
Basically I see this as trying to solve a problem that has shown it really is not there. It does not solve the person running too many nodes on their machine, be it a RPi or datacentre beast of a server.
