Chicken or egg first?

[Harvindar]

Well said. Fully agree. To me it is a great product and tech. Hopefully it changes the existing platform.
Thanks

[Sotros25]

@neo

Maidsafe cannot just create coins period be it for giving away or otherwise, the network startup will have the 10% for MAID owners and 5% reserved (set aside and likley held by the foundation) to pay out investors in maidsafe the company who wishes to exchange their shares for coins at some time in the likely far future.

Agreed (printing coin just ruins the integrity of the system). It sounds then like coin was not set aside for marketing costs/programs then.

The idea of contributing MAID/Safecoin (eventually) to reward promising developers that would build apps to grow the network is something I wouldn’t be opposed to as an investor, so long as the developers were properly diligenced. I wonder if some sort of smart contract capability could be used to prorate and allocate the payout based on how much non-spam traffic (I.e., new users/use cases) the application drove to the network over time. That might more adequately align incentives.

In general, I’d be less inclined to subsidize consumer (as opposed to developer) adoption of the network, though, because I think that’s harder to more directly tie to value creation. Admittedly, I might be thinking too narrowly on that point.

[neo]

@Sotros25

In general, I’d be less inclined to subsidize consumer (as opposed to developer) adoption of the network, though, because I think that’s harder to more directly tie to value creation. Admittedly, I might be thinking too narrowly on that point.

I’d agree with that basically. Still no to creating coin out of nothing for it though, since it was not of the conditions in the crowdsale of MAID.

Have you read the proposal for a “foundation” to assist developers of SAFE APPs?

SafeApp Foundation ICO?

So much money has been garnered by various ICO’s of late and that seems likely IMO to continue. There are a pile of potential SafeNet apps that could be developed … and we even have a list and ranking of them: Most wanted APP for the SAFE Network We also are facing a lot of up and coming devs who see the potential of SafeNet and would like to capitalize on it - they see that no one is yet working on it and they go get funding and then … in some cases they fall down and give everyone a black-ey…

[TylerAbeoJordan]

@intrz

When installing, it could ask how much disk space you’d like to share, perhaps with an option to let the Vault choose dynamically and shrink the shared space if the disk was getting full. The installer should show a little explanation that this will help to earn SafeCoins that can be used to buy content and posting stuff to the network.

I think the setup should contain a short quiz about network requirements (I’m thinking PC uptime and bandwidth) to see if they are good candidates for sharing drive space though, If they only have their system on for an hour a day it would be a waste of effort and only get their hopes up for no return.

[happybeing]

The installation should be click and go I think, minimal questions. Let’s not ask the user to think! That’s an enormous barrier - “farming, eh? WTH?”

The best UX is one that anticipates (through thoughtful, design, structure and presentation rather than intervention) what the user wants to do as they proceed to use the software and start to look for ways to do each new thing they might want. It’s tricky, but worth trying because it can be the rocket fuel for a killer app to take off.

To enable farming we should obtain consent, but let’s make that either really simple (a checkbox “enable farming to earn SafeCoin (learn more)” for example), or leave it out of the install (it can be available later, for discovery on a menu or toolbar button, or a prompt at an appropriate time like when they need some coin).

Once farming has been enabled, I think the software can avoid wasting the user’s resources without bothering them unnecessarily, and for advanced users there can be ways to override defaults.

[TylerAbeoJordan]

@happybeing

The installation should be click and go I think, minimal questions. Let’s not ask the user to think! That’s an enormous barrier - “farming, eh? WTH?”

lol, yeah, fair point.

[VaCrunch]

@happybeing

The installation should be click and go I think, minimal questions. Let’s not ask the user to think! That’s an enormous barrier - “farming, eh? WTH?”

No need for a questionnaire if the installer is able to do a quick scan of the system. Just pop up a message: “Your system is a good candidate for running a vault, please see . . .”