Now if this was a project in late beta testing then I might agree a little with what you say.
You must remember that you have come into this project during early alpha testing and understandably things are not yet ready for full on application development with all the “hello world” and beginner tutorials that is normally there and polished for a production staged product.
The dev website is only now being built with a version just brought online in the last month or so.
Did you attempt to do the changes @drehb suggested and at least run an APP that does what you want even though it is not quite as simple as in your opening post.
You are definitely trolling. You show more interest in repeating false “truths” - all negative - about MaidSafe, SAFENetwork and the community, than discussing about the code and picking up on the helpful suggestions from community members.
The code is just a pretext for you to repeat this message you want to send to some audience (visitors, newcomers).
It’s very obvious. Every post you write, contain several such negative opinions by you, stated as if they are some objective truth, while you totally ignore the comments related to the subject.
Here below follows evidence to this as @EvilMaid will not suddenly start talking about the subject, instead repeat more of the same FUD and nonsense (unless he vanishes after mission completed):
You truly have no clue what you’re talking about. You and another unnamed user on this forum seem extremely eager to label anyone who doesn’t blindly praise the total lack of anything tangible about this project as a “troll”. I’ve noticed that the people who constantly talk about “trolling” (or indeed just know what it is to begin with) are usually the actual “trolls”.
You simply don’t read what I type, so what’s the point of trying?
This topic is at risk of going off-topic and in fact should be an important topic.
@ everyone - Drop talk of trolling and analysing motivations, but address the concerns and respond to help offered
@EvilMaid, honestly (some) people have heard you and given you reasonable answers and honest help. If you cannot follow then please itemise the points that you do not follow. Some have given workable examples for you.
Can you please point to the place where understanding is lost?
The website gives a list of things that need to be done/installed before writing/running your first APP development. At what point did you lose understanding?
After the “Create a public MutableData” header, it turns into utter nonsense to me.
(As for the person above who kept insulting me and suggesting that I’m some sort of “newbie”… I shouldn’t even reply to that as I’ve already said this, but nothing about the actual SYNTAX is confusing to me as I very well know JavaScript and have done all sorts of advanced coding. It’s the API/logic itself that is extremely messy and confusing to the point where I really wonder how anyone has been able to make anything with this.)
I simply answered your generic question. If it’s not the generic answer you’re looking for, maybe you should’ve asked a different one or maybe been a bit more specific.
Don’t get mad…help us help you…ask specific questions.
I’m sorry that your expectations are not being met by the documentation or the community or the project.
I’ve done a lot of work on the backend but have to admit to have not touched the frontend at all. Today I looked into it for the first time to see if I can understand your grievances and maybe help out a bit.
I personally found the tutorial to be understandable. Having said that, the tutorial was not structured well and it lacked focus / context / motivation; but I am not here to criticise the tutorial, I’m here to try to help you build something cool.
The thing that struck me about the tutorial is it builds a high level API out of a low level API, which is not a beginner thing to be doing! The reason it’s doing that is because the network still being built and the high level APIs and libraries hasn’t had a chance to be created. Later there will be better libraries that will do what you want from your first post, so maybe you just need to wait a bit?
If you have specific suggestions for how you think an API should look (you started along this path in the first post) then that’s valuable to people who write libraries (which is something I have done and may do again one day). I encourage you to more fully conceive a ‘nice api design’ and post it here for a keen developer to implement. Everyone would benefit.
Back to the tutorial, the function “createMutableData” is very close to your method “createTextContainer”. The main difference is the tutorial just creates the data, whereas your function intends to also create an html element with that data in it. Frustratingly, the method “createMutableData” has some hardcoded data in it which should be refactored as inputs to the function. So I’d encourage you to go straight to that function and try to understand what is happening in it, because that’s almost the same as your createTextContainer idea.
If you’re wanting to build an app for SAFE network right now I suggest putting the network storage and retrieval operations into their own file / functions and then you can isolate the complexity of SAFE (maybe don’t even do any SAFE stuff there, just mock the storage for later implementation). When a better library comes out the complexity of that file can be reduced when you need to. And it means you can build your app now rather than wait for the ‘perfect library’ to be made. I’d be keen to hear what you plan to build!
Hope this helps and if you have any specific questions I’m happy to try to help further.
