I hope you’re well. If I leave the forum I’d be grateful to stay in touch with you. I see others leaving quietly and am not sure my being here is of value to me or others. I can have more fun elsewhere too. The Home Lab community on Mastodon for instance is right up my street, and they also need a bit of education 
I wish you a good night’s sleep, stay loopy and I hope the renovations are going well.
For any who want facticious jokes rather than snark…
Chill Mark.
Who you block is entirely up to you.
I, and I am sure most here, are indeed grateful to you for your sceptical look at AI.
However it is undeniably of great use to some people in some situations when employed properly.
I have confidence that @dirvine is doing just that.
However your recent confrontational style is also a part of the decline f this forum and why sadly most action is on the poorer quality (lets just leave it at that ) Discord.
Hopefully we will soon all be chatting again on x0x and we can leave both Discord and Discourse behind.
Meantime just you keep on keeping on and pour yourself a Pimms.
I look forward to the day when I can buy you a meal and the beverage(s) of your choice.
Don’t fall in the water!!!
Let’s PM for sure! Gotta stay in touch man.
You made an arse of that…
I keep thinking it’s time to leave this thread because nobody is listening no matter how obviously bad the news.
But there’s always something worse and so here I am again screaming into a void:
Dont think we are not listening.
Not 100% of us agree with you 100% but thats true for everything
Also there is awhole lot of other shit going on which may be one reasoon why you are not getting an awful lot of reaction. And I’ll bet there are alot less eyes reading the forum than a couple of years back.
Keep on keeping on, Mark.
Thought for the day
No gods exist, have ever existed, or will ever exist unless humanity is stupid enough to create some kind of super AI.
We could go way off topic here but I’ll risk it for a biscuit.
I think a ‘Super AI’ still won’t fit anyone’s definition of a god whether they define it in terms of being able to create a universe and knowing and controlling everything in it since the start and to the end or forever like in theism or being responsible for a major function such as war, love, destruction, etc. like in pantheism.
But they could end up with powers we might describe as ‘god like’ and certainly better than ours.
That isn’t necessarily a problem. Lots of things we’ve created have powers better than ours eg. motors and factories. The problem is that while they can be put to harmful uses they are still under our control. A super intelligent AI might not be at all. We’d have to convince the AI that we are important and not to use our carbon or the whole planet for something it finds more important. Bearing in mind it will be smarter than us!
We are absolutely stupid enough to do it. Except we’ll think we’re being smart: to achieve it before someone else gets there first.
@storage_guy
Please don’t go off tropic. If you want to discuss and speculate please make another topic. Some are increasingly derailing this topic, so please ignore any irrelevant posts here.
Everyone, I’d appreciate it if you’d delete any irrelevant posts or move their content elsewhere.
It if folk don’t do I it themselves, maybe a moderator would obliged? @moderators
There’s no point me me coming here if this continues.
I am NOT trying to derail this topic.
However if you want to keep it as a personal moan-list for yourself, carry on.
If anything I was documenting my drift towards your position ( or sometng closer to it)
You go where you want go Mark.
You will always have my respect, right now you are likely to lose my attention - which is sad.
I suggest a new topic for mine and Southside’s posts and the ones I put in last week about the book ‘If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies’ because, to be fair, this topic is specifically about the capabilities and risks of the current LLM ‘AI’s and us talking about the capabilities and risks of what might come later is a different thing.
Brian Eno endorsed a book:
‘The blizzard of excitement, misinformation and pure hype around AI has driven many of us to want an honest guide. If, like me, you’re one of those many, you need to read this book …’
Titled:
THE AI CON
Penguin.co.uk -'Look Inside'
Publication-year: 2025. AI-flukes since, not in there. But then again, Shannon started the whole thing already in 1948:
“Open a book at random and select a letter at random on the page. This letter is recorded. The book is then opened to another page and one reads until this letter is encountered. The succeeding letter is then recorded. Turning to another page this second letter is searched for and the succeeding letter recorded, etc.”
Preface:
This book is the result of a joyful collaboration between a linguist (Emily) and a sociologist (Alex), rooted in a shared drive to deflate AI hype through analysis grounded in our academic fields and pointed humor.
Contents
Chapter 1 - An Introduction to AI Hype:
“AI” has always been a marketing term, but it hasn’t always been the marketing term of choice. In fact, up until fairly recently, the companies building and selling such technologies as speech synthesis, automatic transcription, machine translation, image processing, and robotics did not label them as “AI”.
Page 5
All in all, would marry one of the two authors unseen if it wasn’t for the language barrier. Problem with this forum too: in there they also are not using my native language.
No point for me coming here if this continues … 
@storage_guy Actually…
I’m pretty much done with Southside and using “ignore” doesn’t solve much of the problems he causes me. A lot is just trolling. And moderation hasn’t helped in recent months either so I’m moving on.
Post what you like regardless of me, unless you care about the forum and community of course which requires most people to take responsibility for what they say, where and how, so moderation can focus on extremes. It really shouldn’t be necessary for long term members.
I’ll just be checking back occasionally to see if there’s an update here worth reading.
Autonomi and certain helpers have all but destroyed something really good that began here in 2014. Maybe it can come back but as things are, it’s just not worth my time compared to other places I’m finding. If the tech ever becomes useful I’ll be using it, probably quietly.
@happybeing, Mark, raising the right hand to the head with the palm facing outward, often with the finger touching the brim of the headwear, salute:
What problems am I causing you?
failing to agree with you on Ai?
If you want to storm off in a passive/aggressive huff then thats your choice.
but don’t blame me just because your philosophy and Davids have diverged.
As someone else said you will either be completely correct or spectacularly wrong.
I fear you may be correct but i’m hanging around for the Autonomi 2.0 ride anyway.
Theres a whole lot more problems in the world than being made the scapegoat for your sad departure from the forum so I hope you’ll excuse me for not giving too many effs
You were always going to leave anyway. very sad but inevitable given the way your thinking has diverged from that of David/Autonomi
You are all about the philosophy of what we had (or thought we had) a few years back
Massive Array of Independent devices - Secure Access For Everyone
just working - autonomously. no servers , no middlemen, etc etc etc
David is all about getting the network running the way we imagined it. Or you lot imagined it, i just followed along inspired by the rest of you and got tore in with testnets and fun.
Then Autonomi happened and the Philosophy and the Network steemed to diverge a bit and there was skepticism
You were rightly upset that the points you raised were not addressed as seriously as you and quite a few others including me might have liked.
and there was not much response from David and there was more grumbling and discontent.
Meantime David is busy nearly dying of cancer, given a 10% chance of making it, can’t speak for months, can hardly move his head to look at a screen lying in hospital bed.
Time passes, David miraculously recovers, decides he’s got better things to do than listen to constant moaning and starts seriously using the AI tools he’s obviously been using in some form whilst immoble/incommunicado in hospital.
So now it looks like David/Autonomi/Saorsa may have pulled it off and we will see a successful launch next week. Maybe
We get the network we dreamed off, NAT hole-punching seems to work fine. We can do AI on our terms if we want to or not. We can just use the network the way we evisaged before AI was a thing
But David and the team did it with tools and business practices that you regard as harram almost.
So you’re really no happy and now you are finally flouncing off and blaming me for your departure.
Classy
You may be right, you may be wrong about AI, Mark, but i did think you had a little more class than that.
Sad it ends this way but we may all be saying that soon.
@happybeing I think it would be a shame to lose you and your opinions, insights and expertise at this late stage. Especially this close to the finishing line / start gate for something really good. I think the project has been the better for you for a long time even if you no longer see it as a good use of your time due to frustrations and divergence from the original vision.
I’ll play the bad cop with a sinister theory:
Happybeing went from the extreme supporter to the very sort of a crybaby he himself used to resent/ignore/clash with.
Now things aren’t the way he would like, he himself moans, kicks, screams, and I’m convinced people trying to butter him up will achieve the opposite. He’s not gonna stay because people make him feel wanted/needed. He’s furious people don’t obey and the moment he feels wanted and needed enough, he will disappear – as a way of punishing us for disregarding his Messiah complex.
China:
Apr 5, 2026 • Han Lee
In 1958, Mao ordered every village in China to produce steel. Farmers melted down their cooking pots in backyard furnaces and reported spectacular numbers. The steel was useless. The crops rotted. Thirty million people starved.
In 2026, every other company is having top down mandate on AI transformation.
Same energy.
https://leehanchung.github.io/blogs/
https://github.com/leehanchung
