Safecoin is a dramatic change in the crypto ecosystem. It solves a lot of the issues that crypto has that no other coin can do. Why not show that off? Instant, encrypted, DDOS proof, no blockchain to store, and subsidized node network. This is huge. Dash had a huge DDOS attack on their supposedly secure masternodes. Safecoin would be immune to that attack. Why not post a piece bragging about it?
There are many parts of the Safenetwork. One huge part is the coin technology and that will probably be more successful to market. People understand Bitcoin’s limitations, it is much harder to understand the problems with the entire internet.
I don’t think you are grasping what I said. Why focus marketing on the most difficult idea to grasp and ignore the easy one? Go for the easiest concept - the new currency, better, faster, safer, scalable. Then when users get interested they learn about the bigger picture.
Right now many people have heard of maidsafe, but just compare it to storj. There needs to be a much stronger message than just storage.
You side step what I am saying and claim I am saying something else. I am not against marketing etc.
Just against adding another layer by adding yet another company to do what others are going to do anyhow.
And now is NOT the time to market SAFE or SAFEcoin. SAFEcoin can only really be marketed when its implemented and running on the live system. The marketing that MAIDSAFE are doing now is the right mix of marketing and waiting in my opinion
The reason for focusing on SAFE is that SAFEcoin is useless without SAFE and SAFEcoin’s PURPOSE is for the operation of SAFE. Anything else is a bonus and will be marketed by users (people/companies/etc) when SAFE & SAFEcoin is running
They were promoting it AFTER the bitcoin network was implemented and running, they were promoting something that existed.
If you are implying that these people were evangelizing about bitcoins previous to 2009, you are deeply mistaken.
Chronologically speaking, if you want to compare to bitcoin’s level of development we are still pre-2009.
It doesn’t matter how many companies advertise or what umbrella they advertise under. The important part is providing the right message to the audience. I specifically didn’t invest in maidsafe because of the talk about the network. I only invested after talking with another person where I learned about Instant transactions and other features that are very important in crypto.
Half the comments on this thread agree that the coin is as big of a message to advertise as the network. Many products are advertised before launch so just because it isn’t ready is not a reason to avoid marketing it. Most cryptos have future features that give people reason to invest in advance. Don’t forget the network is also useless without a way to pay nodes to stay online. The network is really selling to developers. The coin is selling to investors.
So what is really more important? Safecoin or SafeNetwork? It isn’t such a one sided decision is it? Keep an open mind and keep the message inline with the intended audience.
That is easy. SAFEcoin is NOTHING without the network. It simply doesn’t exist.
The network, if it works as described, will become the the successor to the current Internet.
Your question is like “is money worth more than life itself?” Only the greedy and obsessed/rich claim money is worth more than life itself. Without life there would not be any money or need of it.
SAFEcoin like money is a method of transaction. And SAFEcoin’s Primary purpose is to serve the network. Because you or anyone else can use SAFEcoin for transactions or well of wealth does not make it more important than the network which gives it existence
EXACTLY
But again, while you keep implying I disagree, I ONLY disagree that a special separate company full of advertisers (pen pushers) is needed to do it. MAIDSAFE and its associates can and will do this advertising when the time is right
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I actually agree with much of what you say, but unlike a trader I don’t say that the coin is more important than the network that literally creates it…
Also I think that the needed promotion will be handled without needing a special company costing money and give some pen pushers a cushy job. The promoting experts would most likely be engaged by the respective companies as needed
We need to think larger than some financial geek or trader.
Also if you advertise SAFEcoin NOW then most of the advertising will be wasted. Do you disagree?
NOTE: you may even advertise the wrong thing since the coin is not even properly defined yet, nor know exactly how much the rewards will be or how much the costs will be. So what exactly will you be advertising NOW.
It is certainly true that very few realise what SAFEcoin is and how it works.
Things like IOTA have people all excited because they’re zero fees and they scale, but SAFE adds ‘instant’, anonymity and no pow to the mix. Dash talks about being ‘simply digital cash’, but it is the least ‘simple’ or cash-like thing I can imagine. It’s a huge messy ball of plasters/band-aids that attempts to obscure all the problems lying underneath. They tie up supply with masternodes, then they market and hype the crap out of a load of ugly ‘solutions’ as if they had some great innovations or truly disruptive potential. SAFEcoin is the only shot at real digital cash right now, nothing else comes close.
‘Hype’ really isn’t MAIDSAFE’s way of doing things though. I discovered this when the BttF equity sale was on. Nick, David et al are not interested in hot air and fomo. They are modest, humble and honest. As a fan that can sometimes be frustrating because you see opportunities for them to create more crypto-fever around their product, but when you really think about the project’s long term success their attitude is probably for the best imo. And it is the reason they are still here slugging away and near the finish line. I doubt this project could have survived any other way.
Until testSAFEcoin exists any talk of it is just hot-air. It will be met with jokes about being vaporware or appearing some time in the 2030s. When testsafecoin exists literally everyone in crypto will know about it within a week or two. Just like we were all talking about ETH when it shot up and STEEM and then XMR and now DASH. Testsafecoin will make us flavour of the month and then everyone will learn why they could have justified some serious fomo if they’d paid attention. These things spiral their way into public consciousness with fevered excitement as people spread the word once they have their own epiphanies and interest develops organically, rather than being forced.
I think Neo is quite right. I think SAFEcoin sells itself when it appears - as any utility or means of exchange should (Dash marketing makes me /shudder). I think the trollboxes and forums of crypto will do all that marketing for us. SAFE is just too big and complicated a proposition to explain to people unless they are curious and keen to learn. It will be instantly obvious to anyone who downloads the software just how cool the currency and network are when compared to ‘blockchain’. And there will be no more jokes or cocky put-downs when there is a real product. As neo says, there will just be A LOT of lightbulbs going off. I imagine the weeks after testsafecoin with many thousands of faces lit up by the beaker browser with wide eyes, slack jaws and furrowed brows. When I realised what SAFE actually was I couldn’t contain my excitement. I’ve spent the best part of 2 years watching closely and waiting for everyone else to see what we see. I am more confident than ever that they will.
If we promote now we are promoting investment in a currency that doesn’t even exist yet. Why waste money or resources on that? Why does anyone else care who else in crypto makes money from the interest that will eventually come? I am only interested in the use of the network being promoted once it exists (and in my own investments and my reasons for making them). The coin features make it the most useful currency our species has ever devised. That won’t go unnoticed. Telling more people now helps the people you tell, but I don’t think them knowing is worth Maidsafe spending money on and I’m not sure how that kind of promotion helps the project at this stage. And post launch I doubt it will be necessary.
And fyi I say this as an ex marketing whore myself. Really, a utility only needs marketing to distinguish itself from the competition. SAFEcoin doesn’t really have any competition imo. There’s nothing else that comes close. Not yet anyway.
I like Maidsafe because they’re humble. All this hype about new news and new features and this and that with other cryptocurrencies ist mostly that - bragging. And then you actually look at it and think “nice, but why the hype?”.
Let’s not do that with the Safenet. And especially not with Safecoin, it doesn’t even exist yet!!
Let Maidsafe do the real work and the rest will follow naturally. If ppl wanna brag and promote, they can do it and it will be very appreciated by the community, I’m sure!
//edit Also I would like to add that maybe understating things is a huge plus in the crypto world. Because it’s the opposite of what everyone else is doing. I seen it from a contrarian point of view. When you start the browser (with authenticator) for the first time and you think wow, beautiful! And simple! Easy! And you haven’t even entered the world behind it. Then you see what’s actually possible and you get blown away. That’s something that leaves an impression. That’s how you create followers and fans, imho!
I get the impression that @dirvine is unhappy with the get-rich-quick ethos of the cryptocurrency world, and wants to distance himself from that. He’s very anti-greed. I don’t think he’d be comfortable promoting Safecoin separate from SAFE, but I probably should let him speak for himself.
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Until testSAFEcoin exists any talk of it is just hot-air. It will be met with jokes about being vaporware or appearing some time in the 2030s.[/quote]
Might be worth it, the jokes about Maidsafe have dried up lately
Really, a utility only needs marketing to distinguish itself from the competition. SAFEcoin doesn’t really have any competition imo. There’s nothing else that comes close. Not yet anyway. 