SAFEr Browser(s) Proposal

[betterthantrav]

@joshuef

I have a Proof of Concept using Beaker working without the need for the proxy using a ‘safe://’ protocol.

Link is broken

https://github.com/joshuef/beaker/tree/SafePOCr

[betterthantrav]

@joshuef

Stretch Goals:

25,000 MaidSafeCoins: Implement clearnet ‘indicator / switch’. Enable clearnet access when desired via browser UI, to optionally re-enable clearnet browsing.
35,000 MaidSafeCoins: SAFE browser sync Add history / favourites / cache / settings to the network and prevent local browser caching via saving browser data directly to the SAFE network, and preventing saving in the local browser.

Anybody else feel that SAFE browser sync is more important than a clearnet “indicator/switch”?

[betterthantrav]

Its alive!!!

Edit: What I like about it the most is that I don’t even have to type safe:// it does it for me

Type ian and SAFEr will bring you to safe://ian

[whiteoutmashups]

@betterthantrav

@joshuef can we expected weekly updates

Let’s not ask for too much at once here!!

I’m still jumping for joy at safe: being returned to us!!!

Now is a time to be extremely thankful and happy, not a time to ask for more things!!

[betterthantrav]

@whiteoutmashups

Let’s not ask for too much at once here!!

I’m still jumping for joy at safe: being returned to us!!!

Now is a time to be extremely thankful and happy, not a time to ask for more things!!

But, I want all the things and I want them now!!!

[MrAnderson]

@whiteoutmashups

Let’s not ask for too much at once here!!

Agreed! Let’s give this amazing man time to code. Thank you @joshuef for your strong considerations and time/effort. If you need anything let me know. I will love whatever is produced for sure.

[betterthantrav]

@betterthantrav

Linux/Ubuntu Install Instructions:

Step 01: Install Git Ubuntu Server documentation | Ubuntu
Step 02: Sign up for https://github.com/
Step 03: Set up Git - GitHub Docs
Step 04: Generating a new SSH key and adding it to the ssh-agent - GitHub Docs
Step 05: Adding a new SSH key to your GitHub account - GitHub Docs

Step 06: Install node js
Use option one make sure to install the latest version
http://www.hostingadvice.com/how-to/install-nodejs-ubuntu-14-04/#node-version-manager
Check to see what the latest version is here Download | Node.js

Step 07: Open Terminal

git clone https://github.com/joshuef/beaker.git cd beaker
git checkout SafePOC npm install
npm run rebuild npm start

Step 08: Any time you want to run the browser again all you have to do is open terminal

cd beaker npm start

Note 01: If you want to do a fresh install. Delete the beaker folder and start at Step 07:
Note 02: Do not worry about any errors that appear.

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[betterthantrav]

If we want to us Beaker for are project and re-name it SAFEr Browser or change the default bookmarks there is an issue. Mr Pfrazee is more than willing to help but would like support with his brand.

[whiteoutmashups]

Jeez didn’t see that coming from him, seems like quite the pivot from his earlier stance…

[betterthantrav]

@betterthantrav

Mr Pfrazee is more than willing to help but would like support with his brand.

@whiteoutmashups

[betterthantrav]

I kinda like the name SAFE Beaker

Edit: SAFE Beaker Browser or SBB for short.

[betterthantrav]

@joshuef

The Beaker POC will be updated to use beaker’s plugin functionality for the safe: protocol and app builds, asap___

So if I understand this correctly, we are not building a new browser but instead building a SAFE plug-in for Beaker?

[PaulFrazee]

@whiteoutmashups I hope not! Beaker is FOSS under a modified MIT license. Of course you can fork, but I can’t provide free support for it. I need a way to support myself; this is my full-time job right now.

I’m very happy to setup a system where you can create a custom packaging of Beaker, using plugins and some tools. The package would allow a sub-branding, and custom default settings (bookmarks, plugins, etc). Then, you won’t have to fork, and I’ll continue to provide support. My condition for the package system would be that I need to maintain some kind of branding on the software. Otherwise, I don’t have any way to get value out of the arrangement.

[betterthantrav]

@PaulFrazee

My condition for the package system would be that I need to maintain some kind of branding on the software.

This sounds like a fair deal. We help him with branding and he gives us support

[Krekc]

@betterthantrav

So if I understand this correctly, we are not building a new browser but instead building a SAFE plug-in for Beaker?

The OP states the browser will be a fork of Beaker. The message you quoted just seems to be about the handling of the safe: protocol. So the way I read it: Browser = Fork of Bearker and this fork of Beaker will use the plugin functionality to handle the safe: protocol.

[betterthantrav]

Is @joshuef prepared to hard fork from Beaker? This will mean no future support from Beaker.

Edit: I am certain that @joshuef was not planning on cutting ties with @PaulFrazee and I also don’t think @PaulFrazee should have to work for free.

[betterthantrav]

@joshuef

Team:

@joshuef: Professional front-end web developer with 5+ years of experience. I work with a variety of web technologies, including nodejs and reactjs on a daily basis. I’ve been working with SAFE more and more over the last months. safe-js being my first public project (that extracted launcher APIs into a javascript promise library for webapp development). And I’m working on some simple distributed search implementations as well.

I’ve been a forum member for a couple of years (or so) and I’m pretty stoked to be able to finally use my skillset for something useful and SAFE!

I’m planning to work on this 20 hours/week (1/2 time) time as needed to get through all funded development goals.

How does the community and @joshuef feel about adding @PaulFrazee to the SAFE Browser team?

[whiteoutmashups]

IDK.

In any case, something like “SAFE Browser, (powered by Beaker)” sounds cleaner maybe?

[MrAnderson]

@betterthantrav

How does the community and @joshuef feel about adding @PaulFrazee to the SAFE Browser team?

We should let them figure out what arrangement works best between the two dev’s as far as the work goes, but I for one want @PaulFrazee to feel the support and appreciation we all have for his original work. There is an obvious symbiotic opportunity here. @frabrunelle this is the first go at it for building SAFE core features from the community and we are definitely in uncharted waters as far as I see it. Is there some guidance on how best for us to move forward. I would like and willing to support with coin of course, but is there other ways we can additionally support open source developers who the community uses there original software?

Thank you to whoever can shed more light and offer guidance on this interesting situation.

[DavidMtl]

@joshuef I’m getting this error when I try to start the POC, any idea?