Real applications and Anonymity

This is an interesting thought. Do we (nature) ever really “forget” something, or do we simply become unable to “recall” something without assistance? In this sense would the Network forgetting just be someone losing their keys or someone (as related to the other thread on servicing PUT vs GET) someone no longer maintaining public access to data?

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I could quote the whole post tbh - absolutely awesome stuff! I can see why you are excited! This single post summarises so many advantages of the SAFENetwork, with very practical use cases.

I love the idea about shopping so easily. The likes of Amazon gets so much trade because it’s silo is so easy to use - your details are all there, including those for payment. With the new identities and coins, those advantages evaporate. Amazon’s advantage would boil down to being a good search/portal, which other providers could step in and do if needed.

Ok, I know Amazon does other stuff behind the scenes, such as drop shipping. They also have loads of infrastructure of their online store too. However, with SAFENetwork, the latter will go away as the network will be self-managing. For drop shipping, others could step in to do that or Amazon could offer drop shipping (as indeed, many other companies already do).

I can’t wait to see all this come together. The user experience really will be at another level!

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WRT “forgetting” or allowing data access for a limited time: If you run a business that needs customer data, e.g. physical address for shipping, you’re legally obligated to keep that data (also to keep it safe) for several years (bookkeeping, tax authorities, warranties etc.).

So far that’s outside of the scope of the Safe Network.

But since I keep that transaction in my log, I wouldn’t need to keep a receipt for claiming a warranty – as soon as that gets accepted as legal proof. (And how much of my account data would I need to open to the authorities or to a dealer to prove such a transaction?)

Further ideas: Can we couple a transaction with additional data, e.g. expiration date, subscription renewal date, cancellation period? Hm, of course as a shop owner I could send an .ics to my customers already in the current internet, but “of course” I wouldn’t remind them to cancel a subscription… I should make another calendar with my purchase, warranty and subscription dates…
Ok, too far off topic.

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Perhaps I should clarify a bit what I meant here.

The beauty of SafeIDs (identities people can have on the network) is that they allow for some pretty powerful, ways to manage contacts, network wide.

So I create a SafeID, and it has a profile, and can have privately or publically sharable attributes, such as a contact information, and like in this cast a shipping address.

When someone, be that a friend or a business, has my SafeID in their address book, my details are always up-to-date, because I can simply make a change to my personal, everyone I’ve shared that with gets the latest information.

I’m sure we’ve all had that crappy task of logging to dozens of different sites or apps when a credit card has expired, or I’ve changed address. But with Safe, there are no silos of data anymore, I update it in one place, and it’s propagated to everyone who needs it.

But here’s where the time limiting (or the adding of rules around access to data) is useful.

If you think of a Shipping Address for a SafeID as being a bit of PrivateSequenced data. I might give someone ongoing access to that data; that would be really useful for certian relationships, because I want my friends to always have my latest address to send me a birthday gift each year. They get my current, and future addresses.

But for a business, I probably only want to give them access to my current address, and not leave the door open to all my future address changes that will be visible in that file. So I might apply a rule like: Read only access, until the product ships.

Of course the business will be able to read that address, to print a shipping label, and also save it for their legal or accounting records. But what they don’t get is ongoing access to that data, they just get a snapshot of it.

But perhaps I get used to transacting with a business, and I trust them some more, I could choose to lift those restrictions or rules around the data later on, to make transactions even quicker. The control over your personal data rests with you, the customer, and the burden of storing and maintaining infrastructure for personal data if vastly reduced for businesses, and in many cases, entirely eliminated.

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