What It meant: “I put money that should have gone to a big mac that I could have shoved into my landwhale of a face into MAID safe without fully understanding what it is and now I’m mad that I’m not a millionaire yet”.
What I understood: “I don’t understand shit about MAID safe or the sacrifices made to birth freedom into this world”.
EDIT: And please disregard this post if you think I was being overtly offensive, what I was really intending to do with this post was be overtly offensive.
Hello everyone, I can only say that see this topic is not suitable for you as an investor, I am a Chinese, I am interested in many projects, in my opinion, the maid is a great bridge, according to your opinion as long as it is true, maid will release soon, I believe that facts speak louder than words, more than those who don’t understand it, don’t want to go to understand it, don’t want to pay a person, this topic seems to remind me, when a lot of people say it is good, do you want to quiet down and think about it, why it is good, when many people say it is bad, think you should be more quiet.
Maid of the team, how do you do, we all want to change the world, the Chinese can work 16 hours a day, or more, the Chinese are very hard, although there is also the place with bad, my English is not good, but I often will also focus on maid, I invested in it, though not much, but I also think of it as a startup project, let’s come on together
It’s a very good question and the answer is that the SAFE network is an idea which is composed of two parts, and most people experience both a failure of imagination, and an unwillingness to do the necessary study, when contemplating new ideas of this kind.
The two parts of the idea are 1. an established fact and 2. a reasonable conjecture.
The established fact is that there is a mathematical concept, XOR space, that has some very interesting properties.
The reasonable conjecture is that XOR space can be used to build a computer network with indestructible privacy and anonymity (indestructible except perhaps at the entry points).
Still no maid safe though 8 years on…I think I heard a crypto investor say the other day that what maid safe are attempting to do is a monstrous task and could easily take another 8 years…afterall the internet wasn’t built in 8 years but 30…
I just think it’s time for everyone to be REALISTIC - when I read the updates it always sounds as though the team are ‘just around the corner’ ‘almost there’ ‘not far from’ finishing but in REALITY they know this isn’t the case at all but if they told everyone it would be 8 years away everyone would likely lose interest so they keep dangling the carrot in front of the donkey in order to make it continue its long arduous journey…hence all the weekly updates…I fully understand the concept of maid safe which is why i fully appreciate how LONG it is ACTUALLy going to take…it’s just a shame the rest of the people on this forum clearly don’t.
Everyone to be realistic ? bit of an over generalized statement , most people are aware and being patient of the wait , your 8 year figure that apparently your expert coding “crypto investor” claimed is an opinion which you seem to have clung onto without any real need of convincing otherwise. But most people are aware it will take time.
This also depends on how are you defining " what maidsafe are attempting to do" because yes in 8 years time there will still be development and updates on going hopefully, after the network is functioning , after the network has the currency added, once distributed computing has been added . there are plenty of plans and ideas that will hopefully be implemented into the core idea of the safenetwork .
do you define what they are attempting to do as a network that functions as a fully secured distributed internet/file sharing platform , or are you considering other aspects that will be added later on ? when the whole network is populated with websites and has millions + of visitors a day?
if you think that it is going to take 8 years for the basic functioning core network to function as a distributed secure network that rewards users than you are equally as deluded as you claim everyone else to be and clearly don’t understand how long of a wait remains.
what are your proofs and sources to suggest it is a further 8 year wait? except the word of a single person ?
I don’t know about you, but I connected to a SAFE Network about a week ago. I was able to run a Vault from home, register a public name in a DNS, upload a website, browse websites from others and upload/download personal files. So I wonder how informed the crypto investor was you spoke to the other day, but I’m a crypto investor as well (buy and hold, not that much trading) and my opinion is completely different. .
And as far as I know there weren’t 8 years of intense programming like they do now. A lot of time was needed to find investors, do research, get some patents etc. After the crowdfund in 2014 devs were hired by the company and now they have like 9 or 10 programmers working on this project. A stable network is just around the corner as we’ve seen some great progress with community tests over the last few weeks. So yeah, I’m a bit more optimistic .
You have no proof whatsoever that a stable network is ‘just around the corner’ you are led to believe this by the developers and want to believe this because you have invested your money into the project but this is not the case - this project is going to take years to actually get off the ground…there’s still heaps of work to do as per the developers updates.
Nobody cares about you Natalie, and no one should prove to you the contrary. When the platform will launch you will see it, until then wait or don’t but at least don’t FUD with vague uninformed opinions
I dive into the GutHub repo’s, see code come by and test stuff whenever they post binaries. So my “proof” is based on experience, not on what other people say. But feel free to check this project after some years if you don’t believe in it. Nobody is forcing you into believing anything.
neither do you have proof of the contrary … here we just have 2 different opinions - and from the progress i’ve seen within the last year+current status i’m 100% with @anon40790172 and i’m very confident you are wrong on this @Natalie_Bertoncello - but of course just my opinion again
ps: the problem with a system like safe is … there is not much like “a nearly stable network” … there is a long time of [nothing to test] - then you have something that works but has many limitations - and once you adjusted the parameters and got the bugs it’s just there … and once the foundation is there programs can rise and fall and a huge ecosystem of safe-apps can evolve
8 years from conception perhaps, but 2 odd years development and programming
Well if 2 years is the correct figure then your source of information is faulty.[quote=“Natalie_Bertoncello, post:45, topic:6458”]
afterall the internet wasn’t built in 8 years but 30…
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Oh cute one. How about infrastructure took 30 years and still going. But the internet didn’t take that long. SAFEnetwork doesn’t require the infrastructure to be built.
I think you will find more are than you think. You take the word of someone in the poloniex troll box as if its reliable. Who is being realistic.
I think most have learnt that programmers always talk that way, its been a known fact ever since I started some 40 odd years ago. [quote=“Natalie_Bertoncello, post:46, topic:6458”]
so they keep dangling the carrot in front of the donkey
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Very common occurance, but at least they update people where they have reached. Doesn’t concern me that they are more optimistic to time it will take.
The test network we tried actually could run, people are actually running a community network now.
High minded and arrogant statement from someone who listens to the experts of the troll box. Yea, I have read those statements too on the troll box. They are repeated enough to see them considering the little time I actually read it. Most here know its going to take time to complete and you misread excitement for people being fooled.
Not willing to answer the last questions i gave you?
you have now changed 8 years to “years” and now instead of the network launching , you now claim “get off the ground”
you are getting more vague and less descriptive each time you reply , constantly changing the goal posts of what you mean and don’t even provide any proof of your own opinion except for the word of a friend.
Oh @Natalie_Bertoncello …ooops, sorry I mean @hans . well there are two things we know for sure, your english has improved immensely and your “engineer” is now a “crypto investor”, but I digress.
Yeah we all know the pain you and your fictitious army of experts feel and we’ve heard the MS team promise this and not deliver that. We have invested the same and maybe more than you and want to see returns the same as you do.
You’re either an immature, inexperienced, juvenile short seller/FUDster or a juvenile that has not lived long enough to really comprehend the significance of the Safe network, it’s technology and the talent and foresight of the people behind it. My guess is YOU, my little ESL graduate, are a neophyte extraordinaire with far too much time on your hands and need to get a side job cutting grass or bagging groceries to keep you occupied while the $50 you invested grows.
They’re not “inventing” the internet. They’re “re-writing” the internet. There’s a difference.
As a C# developer with ZERO experience in this realm (RUST, Decentralized tech etc…) and only using the foundation they have carefully laid out.
I bet you I could finish it myself. Why? Because I’m already looking over their GIThub repositories and it’s extremely well documented code, and beautifully structured.
That said - The progress they’ve made is incredible, and I have no doubts they will be finished in a short while. I can stake my reputation on it.
I think just about everyone of your points could have had weight a couple months ago, but not now they’ve been rendered moot.
First rule: don´t trust people on the Poloniex trollbox Second rule: “crypto investor” = red light Third rule: if a person without technical understanding makes an estimate which is clearly a guess into the blue, better check the facts instead of plainly believing a clearly biased opinion.
Why should anyone bother to refute that (particularly because here are many people on the forum who don´t mind to wait more years for the final release. Of course, crypto speculants don´t like long time scales, so they create accounts every now and then to haunt forums in order to get some idea of where they should put their money next. You should ask yourself whether you bought into the right coin when you actually only wanted to make money, so…
I could tell you all the truth about myself but i don’t want to go into details that aren’t really necessary. All I will say is you are all MAHOOSIVELY BIASED due to investing in maid safe whereas I AM NOT
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not much there anyway to insult 
