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[yogesh]

@Blindsite2k

But I tried putting a simple text file to the network and it’s complaining I have no safecoins

You can follow the instructions here to create an account with test-coins and then try uploading files (:

[yogesh]

@Vort

If download fails, let me know

Hey @Vort!

Yea, I think the link is dead, I am not able to reach the site. If you can re-upload it somewhere it’d be nice (:

[Vort]

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• Filebin | npwlbpx63uaa2l2p
• WDfiles — файлообменник бесплатный - загрузить файл
  Maybe you can say which free hosting is better to use?

[yogesh]

filebin worked for now

Maybe you can say which free hosting is better to use?

I usually use mega.nz (:

[yogesh]

So from the initial looks of it, it seems like your node has been primarily suffering from MissingSecretKeyShare error. Not sure if this is the case for all Prefix(10) nodes, they do seem to get requests from their elders.

Another interesting thing here is that, node-to-node messages are the ones suffering from MissingSecretKeyShare, whereas towards end of the log file, messages from the section itself are passing clean. Either way, we have a good starting point to look into this now. Thanks for the logs @Vort

[Zoki]

Todays Chunk Check…

More chunks, more memory used.

logs look good, no errors since Saturday.

[happybeing]

@Blindsite2k

I don’t know if this is my fault or not but I just tried listing the files in my safe (there’s nothing in there so I didn’t expect it to lag) and it just hung there, like it was caught in a loop. So i used the syntax: safe files ls. And it just hung there and so I ended up cancelling the command.

Problem: I’ve been unable to upload or cat anything for a few days now. I can safe auth status and see my Safe is unlocked, but cat or upload just sits there forever with no output or error message. In the past it either worked or gave an error after up to four minutes.

In the mean time I’ve put my laptop in suspend a few times, so maybe that has messed with things. Looks like @Blindsite2k has the same issue though still maybe it’s not me.

Question: if I kill my node and rejoin, does it retain anything or start from scratch?

[dirvine]

@happybeing

Question: if I kill my node and rejoin, does it retain anything or start from scratch?

It will

1. Try and rejoin with same name
2. Be relocated to another section with age/2 (or min age == 5)
3. Will store any data it has locally stored (as it has NetworkAuthority we can do this with no cost)

It should anyway. Perhaps @yogesh can let us know if 3 is currently in place? (I Suspect we need to complete that)

[happybeing]

Being cruel here, but what happens if

• multiple nodes try to rejoin with the same name - I can guess first come first served?
• or how easy/hard would it be for a parasitic node to replace s good node, if the parasite keeps trying to join as an existing valuable node (having obtained it’s name and secrets) and the existing node goes down long enough to lose its place?

[yogesh]

@dirvine

Will store any data it has locally stored

Yup, we retain the data if we still have our db files(here).

[dirvine]

@happybeing

multiple nodes try to rejoin with the same name - I can guess first come first served?

Yip first come. It means somebody stole your keys or you gave them.

@happybeing

or how easy/hard would it be for a parasitic node to replace s good node, if the parasite keeps trying to join as an existing valuable node (having obtained it’s name and secrets) and the existing node goes down long enough to lose its place?

It’s the same thing really, somebody has stolen your keys or you gave/copied them. If the node comes back it’s age is 50% (so put far back in trust).

[dirvine]

However, on relocate, @yogesh are we storing all data again to the network? We can then delete it as it’s of no use to us, but we need to make sure we stored it first.

[yogesh]

We do not reset data on relocations, instead we start a new counter for space which leaves the older data as junk. Data does get replicated though, and are stored in the network even if we get relocated, so we are cool there. Raised an issue (here) for the same.

[Toivo]

Is there still point to try to join as a node? Do you Maidsafe folks expect to gather some valuable information still? Or is there something specific you would like us to try?

I’m also thinking about uploading stuff in order to create demand for nodes, but I don’t really have any reasonable files on my Linux machine. Is there some easy way to create files of random data?

[Zoki]

@Toivo

Is there some easy way to create files of random data?

Adjust to fit…

Fleming Testnet v1 Release - *NOW OFFLINE IN PREPARATION FOR TESTNET V2*

so before i can upload i need to join and earn test coin first? I have retrieved others images… very nice i like i like the cli a lot Im still trying to join. if generating a suitable random content size file is a problem… head -c 1G </dev/urandom >my1gigfile or head -c 1000 </dev/urandom >my1000bytefile

[bochaco]

@davidpbrown

$ safe auth unlock
Passphrase: 
Password: 
Sending action request to authd to unlock the Safe...
Safe unlocked successfully

and cannot find any credentials file related to safe.

That’s just because you are missing the --self-auth flag. Why is this flag needed? you need to think of the purpose of authd, which is to act as the apps keys/permissions management app for the user, any app requiring access to the network on behalf of the user it’s requesting it through authd, but authd first needs a Safe to be unlocked by the user to be able to authorise apps and provide them with a keypair. This is why you potentially want to only unlock a Safe on authd without self-authorising, then any other app you had could start self-authorising. It’s confusing now that there is only the CLI app, once we have the Snapp (which includes an authd GUI), browser, etc. then it should be clearer.

@davidpbrown

Just trying a refresh setup but getting on first attempt

I know we are looking at some issue related to a bad calculation on storage cost after a split, so perhaps that’s the root cause of these type of “not enough funds” incorrect errors some of you are seeing. I think we need some additional logging to confirm this, so we’ll have to check that as well. Thanks @davidpbrown

[davidpbrown]

@bochaco

That’s just because you are missing the --self-auth flag.

Ah… I’m one for jumping in and not rtfm… so, perhaps the abc needs an update for this as just hopped through those

@maidsafe

remember to authenticate

doesn’t suggest that flag.

I’ll have a closer look later and the difference this makes. thanks

[peca]

I think I have found a bug. When trying to dowload a file, for example:
safe cat safe://hygoygykdytfkxqmdazdgsrubwi5cozmuysaajupww9yoa7kh6zg4uejrbe > lazydog.jpg

And when lazydog.jpg already exists, it should overwrite it, right? Instead it gets truncated to 0 B a and the safe cat command never finishes. Deleting the file and then downloading again works fine. OS is Linux (Manjaro).

[bochaco]

@nbsp1

In a few cases, I was running safe wallet balance ... and getting “permission denied” on the CLI. When I looked in auth.log, i found the underlying cause was actually also a timeout.

Just to clarify on this, once the CLI has been self-authorised, i.e. it has been given a keypair with balance it can spend on write operations, the authd is not needed and not used anymore by CLI, you can even stop/kill it and keep using CLI. Authd is only needed for authorising apps like CLI, once that’s done CLI connects to the networks directly all the time for all read and write operations.

[happybeing]

Problem: having not been able to download/upload for days - commands just sit there and never exit - I’ve done the following:

safe auth restart
# Check auth status: no safe unlocked

safe auth unlock --self-auth
# Enter secret/passphrase
# Check auth status: safe now unlocked

But the result is the same. The following was reported as working quickly 35 mins ago:

safe dog safe://hygoygykdytfkxqmdazdgsrubwi5cozmuysaajupww9yoa7kh6zg4uejrbe

and

safe cat safe://hygoygykdytfkxqmdazdgsrubwi5cozmuysaajupww9yoa7kh6zg4uejrbe > ~/Downloads/lazydog.jpg

But both are just sitting there for me. Is anyone else seeing this?