MAID price, market cap, ranking, etc., can’t be a lead concern. It’s a trailing indicator.
This is still relevant:
There is definitely a lot to do to facilitate interest, educate those who want to find out more, encourage participation, etc., but MAID is the wrong focus.
The MaidSafe team must often wish that MAID never existed. The goals of making a quick speculative buck and developing a complex project do not sit together at all well.
I’m not sure I totally agree with ignoring MAID. I wouldn’t sell any for 5-10 years regardless, so please don’t think I’m shilling for $s in the short term. Market cap and attention do matter though. If we had a bigger market cap we would have more interest from developers because more of them would know what SAFE is. Those in the ecosystem would also have more money to fund more SAFE projects. I don’t think one can just say that MAID is the wrong focus if we’re talking about spreading the word and getting more people involved with SAFE. If we’re in the top 20 we’ll be noticed and if the ecosystem has more money then more gets done sooner.
I’m not overly worried about it tbh, but there have been a lot of discussions about how and why MAID remains misunderstood and undervalued relative to other projects. I was just giving my 2 cents on why that is. I don’t think it pays to be too high-minded when thinking about marketing and reaching people. The economic incentives in crypto are a big driver for people’s initial curiosity and for their gauge of market confidence in the project. Greed isn’t good or bad, but it is quite a powerful force imo and it should not be ignored.
I agree to this. It could also be helpful to include a “in this coming week we will…” or “in this coming quarter…” etc. even if a very strong caveat on the “confidence band” must be included. I understand that offering a timescale can have difficult short term repercussions (Monaco, for example, paid heavily for the leaked/erroneous visa approval timeline). That being said, in the long term, the benefits of providing greater transparency into timing may outweigh the short term costs.
One could argue that once the network is autonomous, management doesn’t matter. But, in the initial stages post-launch, management is still going to play a significant role. I think that if I were a developer I would want to work with a platform that has a historical track record of transparent planning as well as delivery that in turn allows me to plan and deliver according to a timescale.
No disrespect intended (as I understand the magnitude of what Maidsafe is trying to accomplish); however, if I were to contrast this with Ethereum–which like SAFE is a proprietary-currency enabled platform), providing a timeline–on not just development, but also marketing–has proven valuable. While they had delays that upset stakeholders, they still provided developers, investors, and users a degree of value-generating predictably.
In my experience I have found that whether diligencing a company for a PE deal (or for personal investment/involvement) or hiring a person to take on a role, lack of insight into (ability to track progress against) timescales makes people wary. It’s not so much about always delivering on time, but more about showing the evidence of a planned strategic approach (which I do not doubt Maidsafe has) and being able to explain deviations from the plan. Once again, these comments are not meant to be insulting, preachy, or rude. My two cents.
I would like something like a checklist.
What has been done until now
What is maidsafe developing right now
what is planned to be developed
Something as simple as this would go along way to let everyone know the progress of the project. No time scales required.
There is no way right now to tell if the project is near 100% complete or any other percentage.
What if maidsafecoin was marketed so well that it was in the top 5-10 market cap and started attracting the wrong sort of attention from worldwide governments and corporate enterprises that rely on the current system? ( I.e. New laws, bans, theft of technolgy) I for one don’t mind the safe network flying a bit under the radar.
I understand that, lacking sufficient other marketing–about what’s happening with development, what’s next, where it’s headed, progress along roadmap, etc.–attention naturally substitutes to safecoin as a metric of popularity. Marketing to devs and others who really need to understand the scope of the project and hopefully participate, get use cases and apps considered, etc., will work on the price as understanding and credibility come up. Working the safecoin angle a topic is premature because safecoin itself depends upon the network functioning as proposed, something which is only speculative till one understands a bit about the nature of the network and progress towards implementation.
No reason to ignore safecoin, but to lead with it is a mistake. I think we’ll start to see this situation remedied in the near future.
Maidsafe just needs to be released and everything will be fine!
I think MaidSafe should (if possible) focus on making SAFE a fixed standard. Easier said than done with such a complex project but compare with Bitcoin which despite being a fairly solid standard now has been forked into Bitcoin Cash and other ad hoc solutions have been on the horizon to fix problems with the current Bitcoin specification.
So, instead of planning to be able to make SAFE upgradeable it’s better to have a specification that doesn’t change. If the network can be upgraded then there is the everlasting problem of who will decide on what future upgrades to make. If MaidSafe remains in control over SAFE in the future then the platform becomes centralized.
On the other hand, if it’s impossible to come up with a fixed specification, then it’s probably better to have MaidSafe as a central authority than to make SAFE like Bitcoin.
I don’t intend on being a jerk but, you do seem fairly pessimistic for someone who joined the forum one month ago and just 15 days ago you were saying you’d be happy to see where MAID is in 5 years and that you like their low end marketing profile “head down, bum up” i believe you called it.
And besides just because you invested like many of us, does not give you any rights, and investment is a risk.
Also as an FYI I am not sure where you are from but where I am from the minute someone starts telling me about their background when its neither relevant nor requested is the minute I start shutting down.
The pyramids were built by over 100,000 people and took 20-30 years.
The current clear net was built in exactly 11 years (coincidence?) and is obviously not cut out to move us forward. Similar networks were being developed well before that. You could say it took about 20 years or more.
We are building a new Internet. An autonomous one. One with far more bells and whistles than the current model and with its own in built currency that serves a purpose.
Test nets are live, the crew is doing all they can and IMHO is moving very quickly forward.
If you want to help, contact them and offer to help pro bono.
You obviously understand SAFE is an open source project which means it belongs to all of us, which means any of us can market it. Whats stopping you from making videos, creating and growing pages, recording podcasts and using your self proclaimed professional marketing skills? Stop complaining and start working because
Did I say I had any rights?
Look here, being a keyboard warrior is not my prowess. You want to have constructive conversation, do so like the rest who respectfully supported or disagreed with my post. Even David himself was respectful in his response despite not seeing eye to eye with me on every issue raised.
That being said, I am not going to waste my time responding to the rest of your long, unnecessary attack.